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Old January 19th 06, 04:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Just a heads up to the northeast pilots interested in Angel Flight. Just got
a call informing me that the new requirements as of January 1, 2006 is 250
hours PIC. It's no longer just the 300 hours total time. I'm about 15 hours
short of that so I'll be put in the system pending the hours and orientation
attendance. Apparently it takes a little while to set the orientation up so
I'll hopefully have the PIC hours by the time orientation logistics come
together.

Makes me wonder what prompted the change. National consistency?

Marco Leon



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Old January 19th 06, 04:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Marco Leon mmleonyahoo.com wrote:

Makes me wonder what prompted the change. National consistency?


A lack of new pilots, perhaps?


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Old January 19th 06, 05:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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Marco Leon mmleonyahoo.com wrote:

Makes me wonder what prompted the change. National consistency?


A lack of new pilots, perhaps?


But pilots usually have more total time than they have PIC time, no? All the
primary and some of the instrument training time now can not be counted.
Their website still states "total" time and not PIC--they should change
that. Peter, what was your experience with the orientation? How often are
they scheduled, how long are they and do they offer both weekdays and
weekends?

Marco



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Old January 19th 06, 05:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Marco Leon mmleonyahoo.com wrote:

But pilots usually have more total time than they have PIC time, no?


I don't know, but typically a relaxation of requirements indicates that
supply is down. With the continued increase in aviation costs, I don't
doubt that the number of active mission pilots has decreased this past
year.

Peter, what was your experience with the orientation? How often are
they scheduled, how long are they and do they offer both weekdays and
weekends?


Hmmm... my orientation was back in July of 2003, so some of the details are
cloudy. I think there were perhaps two sessions per month and I had a
choice of a Tuesday PM orientation in Lawrence, MA, or a Saturday AM
orientation in White Plains, NY. Along with three other pilots, I attended
the Tuesday PM.

The orientation was a bit over an hour long. We saw a video, talked about
the required procedures for selecting and flying missions (including the
importance of the liability release form), and talked aviation in general.
It took me longer to fly there one way than the orientation lasted.



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Old January 19th 06, 06:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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When I joined in AF West we had a checkride, instrument check, and all.

-Robert

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Old January 19th 06, 07:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Maybe they would have more pilots if they replied to inquiries.

I tried contacting them a few times back in 2000. I'm still waiting for a
reply.



"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message
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Just a heads up to the northeast pilots interested in Angel Flight. Just

got
a call informing me that the new requirements as of January 1, 2006 is 250
hours PIC. It's no longer just the 300 hours total time. I'm about 15

hours
short of that so I'll be put in the system pending the hours and

orientation
attendance. Apparently it takes a little while to set the orientation up

so
I'll hopefully have the PIC hours by the time orientation logistics come
together.

Makes me wonder what prompted the change. National consistency?

Marco Leon



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Old January 19th 06, 07:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Steve Foley wrote:

I tried contacting them a few times back in 2000. I'm still waiting for a
reply.


Given the high turn-over at the AFNE office, I would strongly recommend
trying again.

The responsible position who took your message has been filled by probably
eight different people since then.


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Old January 19th 06, 11:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 12:53:14 -0500, "Peter R."
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Marco Leon mmleonyahoo.com wrote:

But pilots usually have more total time than they have PIC time, no?


I don't know, but typically a relaxation of requirements indicates that
supply is down. With the continued increase in aviation costs, I don't
doubt that the number of active mission pilots has decreased this past
year.


Isn't changing from 250TT to 250 *PIC* a tightening of the
requirement, not relaxation?
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Old January 19th 06, 11:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 19:44:47 GMT, "Steve Foley"
wrote:

Maybe they would have more pilots if they replied to inquiries.

I tried contacting them a few times back in 2000. I'm still waiting for a
reply.



Me too, in 1999. Went to Philly "signed up" and never heard a thing.

Makes me skeptical to try again, although it's a Great excuse to fly.

z
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Old January 20th 06, 01:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Peter Clark wrote:

Isn't changing from 250TT to 250 *PIC* a tightening of the
requirement, not relaxation?


Of course. I read it too fast and thought the two amounts were using the
same units.

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