Annual overdue by a few days

Am I allowed to fly my plane to a near by airport in order to complete
the aircraft annual even if it is a few days after annual due date? In
other words annual was done on 4/29/07 and now we are into May. What
do I need to do to get permission and how long can this extension be.
Would this be different than a "Ferry Flight" limited to 10hrs.
Or......Thanks

Larry

One could, if one were daring, just do the flight.

Otherwise, contact the local FSDO to get a ferry permit.

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"Larry" wrote in message
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Am I allowed to fly my plane to a near by airport in order to complete
the aircraft annual even if it is a few days after annual due date? In
other words annual was done on 4/29/07 and now we are into May. What
do I need to do to get permission and how long can this extension be.
Would this be different than a "Ferry Flight" limited to 10hrs.
Or......Thanks

Larry

In article ,
Larry wrote:

Am I allowed to fly my plane to a near by airport in order to complete
the aircraft annual even if it is a few days after annual due date? In
other words annual was done on 4/29/07 and now we are into May. What
do I need to do to get permission and how long can this extension be.
Would this be different than a "Ferry Flight" limited to 10hrs.
Or......Thanks

Larry

I'm just an owner, but I'm not aware of any extension. It is my understanding
that If it's out of annual, then you need a ferry permit.

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Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

On Sun, 4 May 2008 08:48:01 -0700 (PDT), Larry
wrote:

Am I allowed to fly my plane to a near by airport in order to complete
the aircraft annual even if it is a few days after annual due date?

Nope.

In other words annual was done on 4/29/07 and now we are into May. What
do I need to do to get permission

A ferry permit, which shouldn't be difficult to get if the plane was
fully airworthy before it went out of annual. Contact your local
FSDO, or ask your mechanic if he knows a specific contact at the FSDO
to contact.

I guy who parks near me did this just last month, and it wasn't as big
a deal as I would have thought.

On Sun, 4 May 2008 08:48:01 -0700 (PDT), Larry
wrote:

Am I allowed to fly my plane to a near by airport in order to complete
the aircraft annual even if it is a few days after annual due date? In
other words annual was done on 4/29/07 and now we are into May. What
do I need to do to get permission and how long can this extension be.
Would this be different than a "Ferry Flight" limited to 10hrs.
Or......Thanks

Get your A&P to call the FSDO and get a ferry permit. As soon as the
annual expired it's no longer legal to reposition to the other
airport. The fly-over-to-reposition provisions of the 100hr
inspection don't apply to annual inspections.

The ferry permit is basically a formality. The A&P gets one, signs
off that the aircraft is safe to move, and hands it to you to go get
the aircraft. Takes about 1/2 hour to arrange assuming the guy from
the FSDO is near his desk.

On May 4, 9:22*am, Peter Clark
wrote:
On Sun, 4 May 2008 08:48:01 -0700 (PDT), Larry
wrote:


The ferry permit is basically a formality. *The A&P gets one, signs
off that the aircraft is safe to move, and hands it to you to go get
the aircraft. *Takes about 1/2 hour to arrange assuming the guy from
the FSDO is near his desk.

It also depends on the FSDO. Some FDSO's require basically a 100 hr
inspection before issuing the permit.

-Robert

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Am I allowed to fly my plane to a near by airport in order to complete
the aircraft annual even if it is a few days after annual due date? In
other words annual was done on 4/29/07 and now we are into May.

I would think that any savvy AI would have waited and signed the annual off
on 5/1 which gives the annual a 13 month duration. (Baker's dozen)

Peter Clark wrote in
:

Get your A&P to call the FSDO and get a ferry permit.

You might also want to check your insurance to see if it's valid under a
ferry permit operation.

Mike

On May 4, 2:55*pm, "John Kunkel" wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message

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Am I allowed to fly my plane to a near by airport in order to complete
the aircraft annual even if it is a few days after annual due date? In
other words annual was done on 4/29/07 and now we are into May.

I would think that any savvy AI would have waited and signed the annual off
on 5/1 which gives the annual a 13 month duration. (Baker's dozen)

I would normally try to do that but sometimes the owner needs to be
legal on the first flight of his annual cycle as well as the last.
Scheduling and completion sometimes just don't work out and you end up
with a sign off on or near the last day of a month.

As for a ferry permit. The most important thing for the mechanic
arranging it is to know that any Airworthiness Directive that is
applicable is complied with prior to the ferry flight. Not usually a
big deal considering the typical low utilization of most aircraft and
a majority of ADs being based on hours but many ADs are based on
calendar time as well and that could bite if overlooked. You can fly
on a ferry permit if the inspection is overdue but you cannot normally
fly with an AD compliance overdue unless it is specifically allowed in
the AD and then the Ferry Permit has to allow for the that. So if you
apply for a ferry permit for the overdue annual and don't mention the
overdue AD then the pilot is definitely in violation.

John Dupre'

On May 4, 9:48 am, Larry wrote:
Am I allowed to fly my plane to a near by airport in order to complete
the aircraft annual even if it is a few days after annual due date? In
other words annual was done on 4/29/07 and now we are into May. What
do I need to do to get permission and how long can this extension be.
Would this be different than a "Ferry Flight" limited to 10hrs.
Or......Thanks

Larry

For us Canadians, CAR 615.86 says this:

"(a) As applicable to the type of aircraft, at intervals not to expire
later than the last day of the 12th month, following the preceding
inspection, Part I and Part II of the Maintenance Schedule detailed in
Appendix B of these standards are approved by the Minister for use on
other than large aircraft, turbine-powered pressurized aeroplanes,
airships, any aeroplane or helicopter operated by a flight training
unit under CAR 406, or any aircraft operated by air operators under
CAR Part VII."

So, If I read that right, the annual for a privately-
registered aircraft must take place by the last day of the 12th month
following the last inspection. Therefore, an annual that last occurred
on, say, 12th May '07 must next be done by 31 May '08. Right?
Maybe the FARs have something similar.

Dan