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Human factors RECKLESSNESS
My apologies to the Usenet police cross posting but
I am in mourning for friends lost, and in sympathy for the families they left alone. This week we have seen behavior that can only be described as reckless. A man posts video of a poorly performed roll in a non aerobatic aircraft without regard for ...............to say nothing about his instructor PARTICIPATING. Two survivors and a questionable aircraft CFIT A multiple champion pilot losses control while reaching for a $100 side bet. One fatal. 911?, fuel exhaustion, over water, without flotation, at night. One (probable) fatal. I am tempted to ask why? where are we failing? are we glorifying recklessness? Are we truly self destructive (cigarettes, food, alcohol, pollution etc)? what can we do? but I know that we must each find the answers within ourselves and to strive for the personal situational control to handle these situations and temptations. Training helps, as do mentors. (Thank you Dudley, Gene etal) I am sick of hearing "he died doing something he loved". It just sounds trite. They are always way too young. My condolences and sympathy to all mourning family and friends. |
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"private" wrote in message news:hQ7ce.1148571$8l.556991@pd7tw1no... My apologies to the Usenet police cross posting but I am in mourning for friends lost, and in sympathy for the families they left alone. This week we have seen behavior that can only be described as reckless. A man posts video of a poorly performed roll in a non aerobatic aircraft without regard for ...............to say nothing about his instructor PARTICIPATING. Two survivors and a questionable aircraft CFIT A multiple champion pilot losses control while reaching for a $100 side bet. One fatal. 911?, fuel exhaustion, over water, without flotation, at night. One (probable) fatal. I am tempted to ask why? where are we failing? are we glorifying recklessness? Are we truly self destructive (cigarettes, food, alcohol, pollution etc)? what can we do? but I know that we must each find the answers within ourselves and to strive for the personal situational control to handle these situations and temptations. Training helps, as do mentors. (Thank you Dudley, Gene etal) I am sick of hearing "he died doing something he loved". It just sounds trite. They are always way too young. My condolences and sympathy to all mourning family and friends. Ok what about the people you don't here about all the fools driving cars talking on cell phone, driving while under the influence of a mind altering substance like Prozac and the many other pansy pills. "Ohh dont for get about the other drugs people use" "You know Moving any faster than a walking pace can be potentially fatal!" I would not say that we are glorifying recklessness, if it wasn't for people you call reckless we would still be living in caves. Most of us that are in to flying or other extreme hobbies have a huge respect for life but also have that need for that adrenalin. I my-self wake up every day and am very thankful that I don't have to stick a needle in my arm or suck something up my nose to get that rush, I have many many other activity's like flying to get that feeling. You will Die one day that's a fact of Life!! You cannot hide from it! You cannot run from it! So embrace the Life you have been given and enjoy it with every breath you take because you may never know when it may be your last. |
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 16:04:29 GMT, "private" wrote
in hQ7ce.1148571$8l.556991@pd7tw1no:: what can we do? Slow down, and take the _time_ to _think_ critically of the possible consequences of what we are about to undertake. This will be a new experience for some. Others seem to lack requisite the neurons. |
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On 4/28/2005 09:45, NW_PILOT wrote:
[ snip ] Ok what about the people you don't here about all the fools driving cars talking on cell phone, driving while under the influence of a mind altering substance like Prozac and the many other pansy pills. "Ohh dont for get about the other drugs people use" "You know Moving any faster than a walking pace can be potentially fatal!" I would not say that we are glorifying recklessness, if it wasn't for people you call reckless we would still be living in caves. Oh, so you're making things better for the rest of humanity. I guess we should thank you then... Most of us that are in to flying or other extreme hobbies have a huge respect for life but also have that need for that adrenalin. I my-self wake up every day and am very thankful that I don't have to stick a needle in my arm or suck something up my nose to get that rush, I have many many other activity's like flying to get that feeling. You will Die one day that's a fact of Life!! You cannot hide from it! You cannot run from it! So embrace the Life you have been given and enjoy it with every breath you take because you may never know when it may be your last. -- Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Student Sacramento, CA |
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"Mark Hansen" wrote in message ... On 4/28/2005 09:45, NW_PILOT wrote: [ snip ] Ok what about the people you don't here about all the fools driving cars talking on cell phone, driving while under the influence of a mind altering substance like Prozac and the many other pansy pills. "Ohh dont for get about the other drugs people use" "You know Moving any faster than a walking pace can be potentially fatal!" I would not say that we are glorifying recklessness, if it wasn't for people you call reckless we would still be living in caves. Oh, so you're making things better for the rest of humanity. I guess we should thank you then... Nope, don't thank me I have not done anything for humanity. Who were them 2 brothers that invented the airplane????? they were called crazy ect. if they attempted what they did 200 years earlier they would have been hanged or beheaded. What about the people that got on boats to prove the earth was round? And many others that you should thank. |
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"NW_PILOT" wrote in message ... "private" wrote in message news:hQ7ce.1148571$8l.556991@pd7tw1no... My apologies to the Usenet police cross posting but I am in mourning for friends lost, and in sympathy for the families they left alone. This week we have seen behavior that can only be described as reckless. A man posts video of a poorly performed roll in a non aerobatic aircraft without regard for ...............to say nothing about his instructor PARTICIPATING. Two survivors and a questionable aircraft CFIT A multiple champion pilot losses control while reaching for a $100 side bet. One fatal. 911?, fuel exhaustion, over water, without flotation, at night. One (probable) fatal. I am tempted to ask why? where are we failing? are we glorifying recklessness? Are we truly self destructive (cigarettes, food, alcohol, pollution etc)? what can we do? but I know that we must each find the answers within ourselves and to strive for the personal situational control to handle these situations and temptations. Training helps, as do mentors. (Thank you Dudley, Gene etal) I am sick of hearing "he died doing something he loved". It just sounds trite. They are always way too young. My condolences and sympathy to all mourning family and friends. Ok what about the people you don't here about all the fools driving cars talking on cell phone, driving while under the influence of a mind altering substance like Prozac and the many other pansy pills. "Ohh dont for get about the other drugs people use" "You know Moving any faster than a walking pace can be potentially fatal!" I would not say that we are glorifying recklessness, if it wasn't for people you call reckless we would still be living in caves. Most of us that are in to flying or other extreme hobbies have a huge respect for life but also have that need for that adrenalin. I my-self wake up every day and am very thankful that I don't have to stick a needle in my arm or suck something up my nose to get that rush, I have many many other activity's like flying to get that feeling. You will Die one day that's a fact of Life!! You cannot hide from it! You cannot run from it! So embrace the Life you have been given and enjoy it with every breath you take because you may never know when it may be your last. Good God......is this REALLY your conception of flying? If it is, it sure isn't mine or anyone I know and respect!!!! :-) Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Commercial Pilot; CFI; Retired dhenriquestrashatearthlinktrashdotnet (take out the trash :-) |
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"Dudley Henriques" dhenriques@noware .net wrote in message k.net... "NW_PILOT" wrote in message ... "private" wrote in message news:hQ7ce.1148571$8l.556991@pd7tw1no... My apologies to the Usenet police cross posting but I am in mourning for friends lost, and in sympathy for the families they left alone. This week we have seen behavior that can only be described as reckless. A man posts video of a poorly performed roll in a non aerobatic aircraft without regard for ...............to say nothing about his instructor PARTICIPATING. Two survivors and a questionable aircraft CFIT A multiple champion pilot losses control while reaching for a $100 side bet. One fatal. 911?, fuel exhaustion, over water, without flotation, at night. One (probable) fatal. I am tempted to ask why? where are we failing? are we glorifying recklessness? Are we truly self destructive (cigarettes, food, alcohol, pollution etc)? what can we do? but I know that we must each find the answers within ourselves and to strive for the personal situational control to handle these situations and temptations. Training helps, as do mentors. (Thank you Dudley, Gene etal) I am sick of hearing "he died doing something he loved". It just sounds trite. They are always way too young. My condolences and sympathy to all mourning family and friends. Ok what about the people you don't here about all the fools driving cars talking on cell phone, driving while under the influence of a mind altering substance like Prozac and the many other pansy pills. "Ohh dont for get about the other drugs people use" "You know Moving any faster than a walking pace can be potentially fatal!" I would not say that we are glorifying recklessness, if it wasn't for people you call reckless we would still be living in caves. Most of us that are in to flying or other extreme hobbies have a huge respect for life but also have that need for that adrenalin. I my-self wake up every day and am very thankful that I don't have to stick a needle in my arm or suck something up my nose to get that rush, I have many many other activity's like flying to get that feeling. You will Die one day that's a fact of Life!! You cannot hide from it! You cannot run from it! So embrace the Life you have been given and enjoy it with every breath you take because you may never know when it may be your last. Good God......is this REALLY your conception of flying? If it is, it sure isn't mine or anyone I know and respect!!!! :-) Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Commercial Pilot; CFI; Retired dhenriquestrashatearthlinktrashdotnet (take out the trash :-) No it is my concept of life. Plain in simple lifeis short! You never know how long you have. So live it like every day is your last. |
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Dude, you really need to step back and take a good look at what you're
exhibiting here. Aerobatic pilots are already often viewed upon as 'daredevils' or 'reckless' from both the non-flying public and many of the straight-and-level crowd. What we don't need are diatribes like yours to attempt validation at what we do. I'm a 'G-junkie' and love aerobatics. I try to go up every sunny day. And each time I follow the basic rules of acro: =B7 Use equipment designed for the task =B7 Wear a parachute =B7 Obey airspace restrictions (airways & controlled airspace) =B7 Obey altitude minimums (both the FAA's and mine) Last Saturday after the Skagit Airshow I gave a guy his first acro ride. He is a pilot and wanted to try a couple maneuvers just to say he did. He ham-handed the aileron roll and we landed with +5/-4 on the g-meter. And we walked away because ALL of the above rules were adheared to. Check that attitude and get some proper training in a proper acro aircraft if you want to continue to enjoy aerobatics. Being safe doesn't mean being boring. -j- |
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NW_Pilot,
I totally agree that life is short. I also try to live everyday as if it was my last but I try to make sure that other lives are not at risk in my pursuit of happiness. I also do everything that I can to ensure that I can wake up the next morning to enjoy whatever time that I have left on this earth. From what I have read so far, no one has criticized your decision to take up aerobatic flying be it rolling, spinning or whatever. The concern was with the use of inappropriate equipment (a non aerobat 150) and the potential risk of other lives (unless you and your instructor chose a totally unpopulated area for this practice). |
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NW_Pilot,
I totally agree that life is short. I also try to live everyday as if it was my last but I try to make sure that other lives are not at risk in my pursuit of happiness. I also do everything that I can to ensure that I can wake up the next morning to enjoy whatever time that I have left on this earth. From what I have read so far, no one has criticized your decision to take up aerobatic flying be it rolling, spinning or whatever. The concern was with the use of inappropriate equipment (a non aerobat 150) and the potential risk of other lives (unless you and your instructor chose a totally unpopulated area for this practice). |
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