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I was thinking of buying a plane to fly regularly between SMO (Santa
Monica) and MYF (Montgomery Airport, near San Diego), for instance a Diamond DA20-A1, which can go about 104 knots. However, the flight path includes both Pendleton and LAX (perhaps others), which presumably could cause delays. Would anybody be able to tell me roughly how long I could expect that to take, say from the time I get out of my car at MYF to the time I'm in my car at SMO, and how they came to those numbers? Thanks! M |
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... I was thinking of buying a plane to fly regularly between SMO (Santa Monica) and MYF (Montgomery Airport, near San Diego), for instance a Diamond DA20-A1, which can go about 104 knots. However, the flight path includes both Pendleton and LAX (perhaps others), which presumably could cause delays. Would anybody be able to tell me roughly how long I could expect that to take, say from the time I get out of my car at MYF to the time I'm in my car at SMO, and how they came to those numbers? Thanks! M Whip out the whiz wheel and start figuring! |
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On Mar 1, 5:38*pm, origgiro wrote:
I was thinking of buying a plane to fly regularly between SMO (Santa Monica) and MYF (Montgomery Airport, near San Diego), for instance a Diamond DA20-A1, which can go about 104 knots. However, the flight path includes both Pendleton and LAX (perhaps others), which presumably could cause delays. Would anybody be able to tell me roughly how long I could expect that to take, say from the time I get out of my car at MYF to the time I'm in my car at SMO, and how they came to those numbers? Thanks! M Expect to be IFR routed East well beyond LAX before going South (expect a long flight). VFR is pretty easy but you can expect a lot of IFR marine layer days. For VFR you enter a climbing turn from SMO to enter the VFR cordor and head right down the coast (easy stuff). -Robert |
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Cool, thanks! In terms of VFR/IFR, how does it work with
On Mar 2, 11:30*am, "Robert M. Gary" wrote: On Mar 1, 5:38*pm, origgiro wrote: I was thinking of buying a plane to fly regularly between SMO (Santa Monica) and MYF (Montgomery Airport, near San Diego), for instance a Diamond DA20-A1, which can go about 104 knots. However, the flight path includes both Pendleton and LAX (perhaps others), which presumably could cause delays. Would anybody be able to tell me roughly how long I could expect that to take, say from the time I get out of my car at MYF to the time I'm in my car at SMO, and how they came to those numbers? Thanks! M Expect to be IFR routed East well beyond LAX before going South (expect a long flight). VFR is pretty easy but you can expect a lot of IFR marine layer days. For VFR you enter a climbing turn from SMO to enter the VFR cordor and head right down the coast (easy stuff). -Robert Thanks, Robert. As a follow-up question -- it seems like if possible I would want to fly VFR as much as possible. Is the VFR limited to day- time use? What times of day are bad for marine layer activity? And if I wake up to a marine layer day; how do I transition to an IFR flight plan? And how many miles out of the way is the IFR detour? Thanks again! M |
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On Mar 2, 5:46*pm, origgiro wrote:
Cool, thanks! In terms of VFR/IFR, how does it work with On Mar 2, 11:30*am, "Robert M. Gary" wrote: On Mar 1, 5:38*pm, origgiro wrote: I was thinking of buying a plane to fly regularly between SMO (Santa Monica) and MYF (Montgomery Airport, near San Diego), for instance a Diamond DA20-A1, which can go about 104 knots. However, the flight path includes both Pendleton and LAX (perhaps others), which presumably could cause delays. Would anybody be able to tell me roughly how long I could expect that to take, say from the time I get out of my car at MYF to the time I'm in my car at SMO, and how they came to those numbers? Thanks! M Expect to be IFR routed East well beyond LAX before going South (expect a long flight). VFR is pretty easy but you can expect a lot of IFR marine layer days. For VFR you enter a climbing turn from SMO to enter the VFR cordor and head right down the coast (easy stuff). -Robert Thanks, Robert. As a follow-up question -- it seems like if possible I would want to fly VFR as much as possible. Is the VFR limited to day- time use? What times of day are bad for marine layer activity? And if I wake up to a marine layer day; how do I transition to an IFR flight plan? And how many miles out of the way is the IFR detour? If in doubt you'll have to go IFR out of SMO. You can expect a marine layer often in summer mornings. The IFR routing is well east of the LA area and the VFR route would be West (over the coast line). There really is *NOT* VFR to IFR in the los angeles area; you have to land to pick up an IFR clearance. I have never heard of an airborne IFR clearance issued by LA approach (although I've tried several times). However, once you get out of the LA area its very easy to pick up an airborne IFR in the San Diego area. So if you can stay VFR until you approach the San Diego area you are good to go. The San Diego class B area is one of the easist class B's to fly GA around; Los Angeles is one of the most challenging. BTW: Understand that there are 2 class B airspaces in San Diego. When they clear you through the San Diego class B they do not expect you to fly direct to MYF, overflying the AF base (ask me how I know ) -Robert |
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I agree with what Robert has said, but he may be a bit optimistic about the frequency and duration of the marine layer. It can be deep and persistent. Also, Beach Boys songs notwithstanding, there are IFR days in SoCal. Today, for example. If you need to get there on time and often, you will need to be able to go on instruments and budget enough time to do so. If you wake up to IFR conditions, it's not a question of transitioning to an instrument plan. You won't be able to get out of SMO without being on one, unless you wait until midday. Some days even that isn't long enough: right on the coast there are days when it doesn't burn off at all. The marine layer is very common in spring and early summer. VFR, of course, is not limited to day in the USA. You are more likely to have VFR conditions at night than during the day. IFR marine layer days. For VFR you enter a climbing turn from SMO to enter the VFR cordor and head right down the coast (easy stuff). -Robert Thanks, Robert. As a follow-up question -- it seems like if possible I would want to fly VFR as much as possible. Is the VFR limited to day- time use? What times of day are bad for marine layer activity? And if I wake up to a marine layer day; how do I transition to an IFR flight plan? And how many miles out of the way is the IFR detour? Thanks again! M |
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It isn't called the May Gray and the June Gloom for no good reason.
Jim an instrument plan. You won't be able to get out of SMO without being on one, unless you wait until midday. Some days even that isn't long enough: right on the coast there are days when it doesn't burn off at all. The marine layer is very common in spring and early summer. |
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