C172 Plane crash Orlando, FL

They were turned around looking out the back window of the moving car.
And mommy and or daddy didn't have them buckled in because....?

RST Engineering wrote:
That's exactly why I turned a perfectly good 172 into beer can recyclable
material. In the last two seconds of flight, I saw three kids staring at me
out of the back windshield of a Honda station wagon going, at most 30 mph up
the freeway hill. Two choices...stay in the center lane of the freeway and
possibly kill the kids or slip over into the left lane and take the wing off
on the bridge abutment. Not much choice, is there?
It is amazing how fast an airplane turns over on its back when a wing is
gone. And I could, almost twenty years later, draw those kids' faces from
memory.

jsmith wrote:

They were turned around looking out the back window of the moving car.
And mommy and or daddy didn't have them buckled in because....?

Dunno about the Honda, but the back seat on our Ford wagon faced to the rear.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

As he said, it was over twenty years ago. Car seats are a really
recent requirement / invention. When I grew up in the 50s/60s, there
were few seatbelts. Not even required in cars until about 1964, IIRC.
And most of the time, kids romped all over the car on long trips...
even laying in the rear window deck (a popular spot . Yes, we
should've all been killed, but we weren't

Kev

RST Engineering wrote:
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It is amazing how fast an airplane turns over on its back when a wing
is
gone. And I could, almost twenty years later, draw those kids' faces
from
memory.


When I took the wing off of my 172, I was was fortunate enough to
have it land on its feet (for the most part). What surprised me was
how quickly it stopped flying once the spar had snapped.

The lesson I took away from that is that if you're going to hit
something, you'd better darned close to the ground when you do it.
John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

"Kev" wrote in message oups.com...
As he said, it was over twenty years ago. Car seats are a really
recent requirement / invention. When I grew up in the 50s/60s, there
were few seatbelts. Not even required in cars until about 1964, IIRC.
And most of the time, kids romped all over the car on long trips...
even laying in the rear window deck (a popular spot . Yes, we
should've all been killed, but we weren't

Kev



Lets see, twenty plus years ago would be pre-1985 - a pretty long time after the 50s/60s. As they say, time flies!

Kid car seats were definitely around, but not required, back then...

"Aardvark" wrote in message ...
C J Campbell wrote:

"CFLav8r" wrote in message
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We have had an unfortunate plane crash here yesterday.
I Cessna 172 developed engine problems and could not make the airport

(KORL)

the plane ended up coming down just a few miles NW of the intended

airport.

A chopper news 6 helicopter was on scene as the pilot tried to land the
plane on a road adjacent to a golf course. At the last moment the pilot
appears to veer away from the road to avoid rear-ending a car and instead
hits a power pole.
Passenger in critical condition, pilot did not make it.


It looks to me like the van pulled out in front of him from behind. Probably
not many people look up for traffic, though.



At first I saw he was going to land on the road and his right wing got into the wires. After looking at it a few times
he was not over the road and it was his left wing into the wires, I don't think he ever saw the SUV.


The plane was definitely to the right of the wires and the left wing hit and followed the wires. It looks to me that
they overshot their intended landing area (back along the fairway) and were trying to thread the needle between the
buildings and the road, maybe looking for a clear spot in that parking lot.