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Yet another media outlet gets it WRONG
Woke up this morning (5/25/05) to hear this on WPLJ in NY (in reference
to the ADIZ incursion a couple weeks ago)... - Rumsfeld had ordered the plane to be shot down, and they were literally seconds away from doing so... - The "CFI" had his "license" revoked... - The "student pilot" would not be charged... Ugh... there ought to be a way to file a lawsuit against the media for spreading false information like this. I can't quite call it lying, because they most likely just got their news from "other sources", but geez, what is it going to take to get the record set straight in this country? -- jr |
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Perhaps AOPA should start a "News Eagles" program, where pilots take up
local newspeople. They could show them that throttling back the engine doesn't make you fall out of the air, explain stalls, point out how little a "dangerous mass" small planes have, etc. Take them on a flight for a nice meal a distance away, and you'd probably get some converts. |
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On land, this would be called a press conference.
"Kev" wrote in message ups.com... Perhaps AOPA should start a "News Eagles" program, where pilots take up local newspeople. They could show them that throttling back the engine doesn't make you fall out of the air, explain stalls, point out how little a "dangerous mass" small planes have, etc. Take them on a flight for a nice meal a distance away, and you'd probably get some converts. |
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"Kev" wrote in message ups.com... Perhaps AOPA should start a "News Eagles" program, where pilots take up local newspeople. They could show them that throttling back the engine doesn't make you fall out of the air, explain stalls, point out how little a "dangerous mass" small planes have, etc. That is actually a very good idea. -c |
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AOPA has had such a program for a long time. Once upon a time I took it upon
myself to have a media day at Boeing Field. Got a great turnout from FBO's, charter operators, et al. I called all of the local print and TV outlets, plus the Associated Press, and asked them to send representatives who were not their normal "aviation" writers but people who need to learn about aviation. Media turnout was poor, and the ones who showed up were the "aviation specialists." What a waste of time and money. Only one accepted the offer of a ride. Bob Gardner "Kev" wrote in message ups.com... Perhaps AOPA should start a "News Eagles" program, where pilots take up local newspeople. They could show them that throttling back the engine doesn't make you fall out of the air, explain stalls, point out how little a "dangerous mass" small planes have, etc. Take them on a flight for a nice meal a distance away, and you'd probably get some converts. |
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"Kev" wrote in message ups.com... Perhaps AOPA should start a "News Eagles" program, where pilots take up local newspeople. why waste good avgas on morons |
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Guy Elden Jr wrote:
- Rumsfeld had ordered the plane to be shot down, and they were literally seconds away from doing so... I don't know if Rumsfeld was in the loop, but they were very close to being shutdown. - The "CFI" had his "license" revoked... No CFI, but even REC.AVIATORS who should no better have been making this error right and left. - The "student pilot" would not be charged... Have you heard anything to the contrary? |
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Ron Natalie wrote:
Guy Elden Jr wrote: - Rumsfeld had ordered the plane to be shot down, and they were literally seconds away from doing so... I don't know if Rumsfeld was in the loop, but they were very close to being shutdown. I think that's a very big deal though. The claim that an order was actually made is a far cry from just debating the point, which is probably SOP anyway for any incursion that gets close enough to the restricted zone at the center of the ADIZ. - The "CFI" had his "license" revoked... No CFI, but even REC.AVIATORS who should no better have been making this error right and left. It gives a very bad impression of instructors when they go calling this guy an instructor. Call him a country bumpkin who should've known better, because that's what he is. - The "student pilot" would not be charged... Have you heard anything to the contrary? Point here (and granted, this is really more a technicality for pilots) is that the student pilot was not, at the time of the incident, acting in the capacity of a student pilot. He couldn't have been, because the guy who was acting as PIC was not an instructor. So the whole scenario that this radio station described was factually wrong on several accounts, and paints a very different picture... i.e., "instructor & student" vs "pilot and passenger". -- jr |
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Guy Elden Jr wrote:
Ron Natalie wrote: Guy Elden Jr wrote: - Rumsfeld had ordered the plane to be shot down, and they were literally seconds away from doing so... I don't know if Rumsfeld was in the loop, but they were very close to being shutdown. I think that's a very big deal though. The claim that an order was actually made is a far cry from just debating the point, which is probably SOP anyway for any incursion that gets close enough to the restricted zone at the center of the ADIZ. - The "CFI" had his "license" revoked... No CFI, but even REC.AVIATORS who should no better have been making this error right and left. It gives a very bad impression of instructors when they go calling this guy an instructor. Call him a country bumpkin who should've known better, because that's what he is. - The "student pilot" would not be charged... Have you heard anything to the contrary? Point here (and granted, this is really more a technicality for pilots) is that the student pilot was not, at the time of the incident, acting in the capacity of a student pilot. He couldn't have been, because the guy who was acting as PIC was not an instructor. So the whole scenario that this radio station described was factually wrong on several accounts, and paints a very different picture... i.e., "instructor & student" vs "pilot and passenger". Don't bet on that. If FAA wanted the student certificate, they'd have it and it would be up to him to try to get it back in court. Even when the lawnchair nutcase with the balloons survived his stunt, FAA said that they would have cancelled any certificates he had because that's all they could really do. But he didn't have any. |
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Ron Natalie wrote:
I don't know if Rumsfeld was in the loop, but they were very close to being shutdown. AOPA said the Rumsfeld was informed and that they were discussing shooting the aircraft down when it turned. George Patterson "Naked" means you ain't got no clothes on; "nekkid" means you ain't got no clothes on - and are up to somethin'. |
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