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The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
"Bob" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:29:28 -0400, "SWIGGY" wrote: "Bob" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:26:37 +0100, "Neil Hoskins" wrote: "Bob" wrote in message m... On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:30:00 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter" wrote: The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL -- Chappie "The United States Corps of Chaplains is not an entity of, nor endorsed by, any branch of the military services or the United States government." It is a non-profit organization that discriminates by religion... Good. Just occasionally I envy the Yanks for having secularism (pretty much) enshrined in the constitution. Here in UK, where the Anglican church is a branch of government, chaplains in both the armed services and National Health Service are paid-for by the taxpayer. Military services, Veterans Administration, and probably Public Health Service "real" chaplains are paid by the U.S. government. I have no idea how it is justified. They feed you meds as food for your health. They feed you food as food for your body. They feed you knowledge as food for your intellegence. They feed you spiritual comfort as food for your soul. It's a smorgasboard. Take what ya want. If ya don't like the way the spiritual food is prepared, you don't have to partake. Just because you do not, does not mean that those that enjoy and relish it should be denied. At tax payer expense? I do not have a problem with that. After all, a war zone chaplain needs special training for the special needs of the troops. It does not interfere with the constitution concerning setting up a national religion. It acknowledges that many of our military personnel have a spiritual side that must be fulfilled. They are often hundreds or thousands of miles away from their home congregation. I'm neither Christian, Jew, nor Muslim, nor any "eastern" religion. I dislike others infringing upon my belief, but I cannot tolerate others who infringe on others beliefs. Attending a military religious service is like attending a movie shown by the military: troop morale. Ya don't HAVE to attend a military religious service, just like you don't have to attend a military entertainment movie (versus training films) or USO show. It is necessary for the troops to operate at maximum efficiancy. -- SWIGGY Check out my vids at http://home.comcast.net/~swiggy/index.html |
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The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
Wow! I didn't realize my post would create such discussion.
The mission of the United States Corps of Chaplains is -- to provide ministerial support and services to communities, families, and individuals and all possible assistance in response to disasters of any type; to provide military honors and assistance to active military personnel, veterans, and their families; to promote patriotism in the community; to defend the Constitution of the United States of America; to uphold and defend the Bill of Rights, seen as unalienable, given by God to free men that they might remain free; to ensure that all citizens, regardless of race, color, religion, sex, physical characteristics, or national origin, shall have the right and opportunity to practice their religion as established and guaranteed by that document which guides this great nation. Some of our Chaplains are American Red Cross certified Instructors and some have even received training from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). Law Enforcement as well as some Forensic Chaplains volunteer with our organization. We have offered our services to post-Katrina efforts and to the Crash of Flight 5191 in Lexington, KY. We also have some Chaplains on active duty. We do not require ordination, however, for the award of the title, "Chaplain," verified ordination is required. We need Recruiters, Chaplain Assistants, Personnel Officers, Administrative Officers, Disaster Responders, YOU!!! With the current outlook for tornados, drought, forest fires, and a very busy hurricane season, let us remember the Commonwealth of Kentucky's motto, "United We Stand, Divided We Fall." If you or anyone you know are interested in becoming a member of an organization dedicated to nurturing the living, caring for the dying, and honoring the dead, please feel free to contact us at: www.uscochq.com, or by emailing Chaplain (Colonel) Lonnie J. Potter, National Recruiting Coordinator, at or by writing: USCOC, P. O. Box 390, Clanton, AL 35046. -- Chappie |
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The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:08:01 -0700, Bob wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 23:30:10 -0400, "SWIGGY" wrote: It is necessary for the troops to operate at maximum efficiancy. I see now. So how many red light tents should we deploy with the troops to operate at maximum efficiency? Bob, Quit being a dick. You don't like it, STFU and move on... |
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The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
I am sorry to bring this up; however, this thread has nothing to do with
aviation pictures. Please remove alt.binaries.pictures.aviation from future posts. Respectfully, Wayne http://www.soaridaho.com/ "Bob" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 23:55:35 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter" wrote: Wow! I didn't realize my post would create such discussion. I think I am beginning to understand now.... http://www.uschaplainsacademy.org/ Is this your academy and if so how much does it cost to become a Colonel and General Grades? The mission of the United States Corps of Chaplains is -- to provide ministerial support and services to communities, families, and individuals and all possible assistance in response to disasters of any type; to provide military honors and assistance to active military personnel, veterans, and their families; to promote patriotism in the community; to defend the Constitution of the United States of America; to uphold and defend the Bill of Rights, seen as unalienable, given by God to free men that they might remain free; to ensure that all citizens, regardless of race, color, religion, Religion? Only christians can apply? sex, physical characteristics, or national origin, shall have the right and opportunity to practice their religion as established and guaranteed by that document which guides this great nation. Some of our Chaplains are American Red Cross certified Instructors and some have even received training from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). Law Enforcement as well as some Forensic Chaplains volunteer with our organization. We have offered our services to post-Katrina efforts and to the Crash of Flight 5191 in Lexington, KY. We also have some Chaplains on active duty. Were your services accepted and if so exactly what services and where did you operate? We do not require ordination, however, for the award of the title, "Chaplain," verified ordination is required. We need Recruiters, Chaplain Assistants, Personnel Officers, Administrative Officers, Disaster Responders, YOU!!! With the current outlook for tornados, drought, forest fires, and a very busy hurricane season, let us remember the Commonwealth of Kentucky's motto, "United We Stand, Divided We Fall." If you or anyone you know are interested in becoming a member of an organization dedicated to nurturing the living, caring for the dying, and honoring the dead, please feel free to contact us at: www.uscochq.com, or by emailing Chaplain (Colonel) Lonnie J. Potter, National Recruiting Coordinator, at or by writing: USCOC, P. O. Box 390, Clanton, AL 35046. |
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The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
... I am sorry to bring this up; however, this thread has nothing to do with aviation pictures. Please remove alt.binaries.pictures.aviation from future posts. Respectfully, Wayne http://www.soaridaho.com/ "Bob" wrote in message ... On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 23:55:35 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter" wrote: Wow! I didn't realize my post would create such discussion. I think I am beginning to understand now.... http://www.uschaplainsacademy.org/ Is this your academy and if so how much does it cost to become a Colonel and General Grades? The mission of the United States Corps of Chaplains is -- to provide ministerial support and services to communities, families, and individuals and all possible assistance in response to disasters of any type; to provide military honors and assistance to active military personnel, veterans, and their families; to promote patriotism in the community; to defend the Constitution of the United States of America; to uphold and defend the Bill of Rights, seen as unalienable, given by God to free men that they might remain free; to ensure that all citizens, regardless of race, color, religion, Religion? Only christians can apply? sex, physical characteristics, or national origin, shall have the right and opportunity to practice their religion as established and guaranteed by that document which guides this great nation. Some of our Chaplains are American Red Cross certified Instructors and some have even received training from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). Law Enforcement as well as some Forensic Chaplains volunteer with our organization. We have offered our services to post-Katrina efforts and to the Crash of Flight 5191 in Lexington, KY. We also have some Chaplains on active duty. Were your services accepted and if so exactly what services and where did you operate? We do not require ordination, however, for the award of the title, "Chaplain," verified ordination is required. We need Recruiters, Chaplain Assistants, Personnel Officers, Administrative Officers, Disaster Responders, YOU!!! With the current outlook for tornados, drought, forest fires, and a very busy hurricane season, let us remember the Commonwealth of Kentucky's motto, "United We Stand, Divided We Fall." If you or anyone you know are interested in becoming a member of an organization dedicated to nurturing the living, caring for the dying, and honoring the dead, please feel free to contact us at: www.uscochq.com, or by emailing Chaplain (Colonel) Lonnie J. Potter, National Recruiting Coordinator, at or by writing: USCOC, P. O. Box 390, Clanton, AL 35046. I'm sorry to add another insight into this seemingly never-ending series of stupid posts from so-called Chaplain (Colonel) Lonnie J. Potter, who says to contact him at , not seeming to understand that chaplains do not carry sidearms, and the US Army does not now carry the Colt ..45 and he seems to have withdrawn his picture in 1980's European camouflage, which is now not used, and he is not now, nor has he ever been, a chaplain in the US Army, which is what he wants everybody to think that he is. Of course, since this is alt.binaries.pictures.military, he could post his commission. He could also post to us.military.army, where army people post. But he won't. Of course, I could be completely wrong, and he is a colonel in the US army chaplains corps. It's easy to prove, especially since he has chosen to post in only one group, and one that does pics..... |
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The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
Chaplain (COL) Lonnie J. Potter wrote:
The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL Congratulations Sir! God Bless and keep you, Dave Mann CWO4 USA (Ret) |
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The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:
Chaplain (COL) Lonnie J. Potter wrote: The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL Congratulations Sir! God Bless and keep you, Dave Mann CWO4 USA (Ret) Yep, have to agree with you Dave. The world needs balance, without the Potters and their kind, we tend to get a little Nazi heavy. Don't need to rapture too early. -- Cheers Dave Kearton |
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The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
"Bob" wrote in message
... On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 23:30:10 -0400, "SWIGGY" wrote: "Bob" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:29:28 -0400, "SWIGGY" wrote: "Bob" wrote in message m... On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:26:37 +0100, "Neil Hoskins" wrote: "Bob" wrote in message news:maql83tdlkm9093ueqj7ipficefonspfbt@4ax. com... On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:30:00 -0400, "Chaplain \(COL\) Lonnie J. Potter" wrote: The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL -- Chappie "The United States Corps of Chaplains is not an entity of, nor endorsed by, any branch of the military services or the United States government." It is a non-profit organization that discriminates by religion... Good. Just occasionally I envy the Yanks for having secularism (pretty much) enshrined in the constitution. Here in UK, where the Anglican church is a branch of government, chaplains in both the armed services and National Health Service are paid-for by the taxpayer. Military services, Veterans Administration, and probably Public Health Service "real" chaplains are paid by the U.S. government. I have no idea how it is justified. They feed you meds as food for your health. They feed you food as food for your body. They feed you knowledge as food for your intellegence. They feed you spiritual comfort as food for your soul. It's a smorgasboard. Take what ya want. If ya don't like the way the spiritual food is prepared, you don't have to partake. Just because you do not, does not mean that those that enjoy and relish it should be denied. At tax payer expense? I do not have a problem with that. After all, a war zone chaplain needs special training for the special needs of the troops. It does not interfere with the constitution concerning setting up a national religion. It acknowledges that many of our military personnel have a spiritual side that must be fulfilled. They are often hundreds or thousands of miles away from their home congregation. I'm neither Christian, Jew, nor Muslim, nor any "eastern" religion. I dislike others infringing upon my belief, but I cannot tolerate others who infringe on others beliefs. Attending a military religious service is like attending a movie shown by the military: troop morale. Ya don't HAVE to attend a military religious service, just like you don't have to attend a military entertainment movie (versus training films) or USO show. It is necessary for the troops to operate at maximum efficiancy. I see now. So how many red light tents should we deploy with the troops to operate at maximum efficiency? It would depend on how many were needed, as well as how many volunteers signed up (including civilian) Camp followers have a long tradition working with the military. -- SWIGGY Check out my vids at http://home.comcast.net/~swiggy/index.html |
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The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
Bob wrote in news:t94p83lokr1j676injrjvnkj1i22g8l6m8@
4ax.com: On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:30:12 -0400, Casey Tompkins wrote: On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:08:01 -0700, Bob wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 23:30:10 -0400, "SWIGGY" wrote: It is necessary for the troops to operate at maximum efficiancy. I see now. So how many red light tents should we deploy with the troops to operate at maximum efficiency? Bob, Quit being a dick. You don't like it, STFU and move on... Why don't you STFU asshole and don't read it. I was ordered to attend so called christian church services in basic training and told I had to put down a christian religion on my dog tags. I didn't like it then and I don't like paying taxes to support military churches. The churchs want to pay chaplain wages that is fine. Just keep my taxes out of it. where and when was you basic I know in 1974 at Lackland that was not the case You could go to church or not nad you were'nt forced to put down any particular religious affiliation The are chaplins in the military from all faiths. |
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The "newest" Col. Potter. LOL
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:40:29 -0700, Bob wrote:
Why don't you STFU asshole and don't read it. I was ordered to attend so called christian church services in basic training and told I had to put down a christian religion on my dog tags. I didn't like it then and I don't like paying taxes to support military churches. The churchs want to pay chaplain wages that is fine. Just keep my taxes out of it. Then someone screwed up, big time. I admit that would chafe my ass, too, but I've known too many grunts to think that was "official." Sounds like you got stuck with a real dillweed. Next time really screw with 'em and just declare yourself pagan... Yes, you can do that... |
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