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Last night on 60 minutes: Bush used influence to avoid Nam



 
 
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Old September 9th 04, 02:58 PM
ArtKramr
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It's all out now. Bush used influence to avoid combat.Well no one says a
president needs courage. (sigh)


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Old September 9th 04, 03:03 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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It's all out now. Bush used influence to avoid combat. Well no one says a
president needs courage. (sigh)


That precedent was set in 1992.


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Old September 9th 04, 05:31 PM
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Blah blah blah


As this list shows, nearly half of the presidents did not serve in a war,
including FDR and Thomas Jefferson.

Jarg

Presidents who served in wars
a.. George Washington - Commander in Chief of Continental Army during the
American Revolution.
b.. James Monroe - served in American Revolution
c.. Andrew Jackson - American Revolution, War of 1812, First Seminole War
d.. William Henry Harrison - Indian wars in the NW territory, War of 1812
e.. John Tyler - War of 1812
f.. Zachary Taylor - War of 1812, Black Hawk, Second Seminole, and Mexican
wars
g.. Franklin Pierce - Mexican War
h.. James Buchanan - War of 1812
i.. Abraham Lincoln - Black Hawk War
j.. Andrew Johnson - Civil War
k.. Ulysses Grant - Mexican War, Civil War
l.. Rutherford Hayes - Civil War
m.. James Garfield - Civil War
n.. Chester Arthur - Civil War
o.. Benjamin Harrison - Civil War
p.. William McKinley - Civil War
q.. Theodore Roosevelt - Spanish-American War
r.. Harry Truman - WWI
s.. Dwight Eisenhower - WWII General
t.. John Kennedy - WWII
u.. Lyndon Johnson - WWII
v.. Richard Nixon - WWII
w.. Gerald Ford - WWII
x.. George Bush - WWII
Presidents who were in the military but who saw no action
a.. James Madison
b.. James Polk
c.. Millard Fillmore
d.. Jimmy Carter
e.. Ronald Reagan - kept out of combat due to bad eyesight
f.. George W. Bush

Presidents with no military experience
a.. John Adams
b.. Thomas Jefferson
c.. John Quincy Adams
d.. Martin Van Buren
e.. Grover Cleveland
f.. William Taft
g.. Woodrow Wilson
h.. Warren Harding
i.. Calvin Coolidge
j.. Herbert Hoover
k.. Franklin Roosevelt
l.. Bill Clinton


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Old September 9th 04, 07:08 PM
Kevin Brooks
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"Jarg" wrote in message
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Blah blah blah


As this list shows, nearly half of the presidents did not serve in a war,
including FDR and Thomas Jefferson.

Jarg

Presidents who served in wars
a.. George Washington - Commander in Chief of Continental Army during

the
American Revolution.
b.. James Monroe - served in American Revolution
c.. Andrew Jackson - American Revolution, War of 1812, First Seminole

War
d.. William Henry Harrison - Indian wars in the NW territory, War of

1812
e.. John Tyler - War of 1812
f.. Zachary Taylor - War of 1812, Black Hawk, Second Seminole, and

Mexican
wars
g.. Franklin Pierce - Mexican War
h.. James Buchanan - War of 1812
i.. Abraham Lincoln - Black Hawk War
j.. Andrew Johnson - Civil War
k.. Ulysses Grant - Mexican War, Civil War
l.. Rutherford Hayes - Civil War
m.. James Garfield - Civil War
n.. Chester Arthur - Civil War
o.. Benjamin Harrison - Civil War
p.. William McKinley - Civil War
q.. Theodore Roosevelt - Spanish-American War
r.. Harry Truman - WWI
s.. Dwight Eisenhower - WWII General
t.. John Kennedy - WWII
u.. Lyndon Johnson - WWII
v.. Richard Nixon - WWII
w.. Gerald Ford - WWII
x.. George Bush - WWII


Putting LBJ in the above list is sort of a sad joke.

Brooks

Presidents who were in the military but who saw no action
a.. James Madison
b.. James Polk
c.. Millard Fillmore
d.. Jimmy Carter
e.. Ronald Reagan - kept out of combat due to bad eyesight
f.. George W. Bush

Presidents with no military experience
a.. John Adams
b.. Thomas Jefferson
c.. John Quincy Adams
d.. Martin Van Buren
e.. Grover Cleveland
f.. William Taft
g.. Woodrow Wilson
h.. Warren Harding
i.. Calvin Coolidge
j.. Herbert Hoover
k.. Franklin Roosevelt
l.. Bill Clinton




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Old September 9th 04, 07:29 PM
Jarg
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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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Putting LBJ in the above list is sort of a sad joke.


There was no judgement included about the quality of the service!

Jarg


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Old September 10th 04, 06:42 PM
Joe Osman
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"Jarg" wrote in message
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Blah blah blah


As this list shows, nearly half of the presidents did not serve in a war,
including FDR and Thomas Jefferson.

Jarg

Presidents who served in wars
a.. George Washington - Commander in Chief of Continental Army during

the
American Revolution.

snip

George Washington was also the Commander in Chief of the Provisional or
National Army raised during the Quasi-War with France. This was after he was
president.

Joe




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Old September 11th 04, 07:36 AM
John Keeney
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"Joe Osman" wrote in message
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"Jarg" wrote in message
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Blah blah blah


As this list shows, nearly half of the presidents did not serve in a

war,
including FDR and Thomas Jefferson.

Jarg

Presidents who served in wars
a.. George Washington - Commander in Chief of Continental Army during

the
American Revolution.

snip

George Washington was also the Commander in Chief of the Provisional or
National Army raised during the Quasi-War with France. This was after he

was
president.


Also he led a group that may well have fired the opening shots in
the French and Indian War as a British subject.


 




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