please stop bashing France

IO wrote in message
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Chad Irby wrote:
In article ,
"IO" wrote:

I'm italian and in my opinion the "french bashing" is a stupid and
racist thing.

It's not a race issue.

We make the same comments about any idiots who act like that.

If you want to criticize Chirac ok... But please don't say that all
the
french are monkeys or make stupid and false comments on French
cowardy...
Remember Die Bien Phu or french resistance against nazis... Your
(american)
behaviour is very offensive to me and to europeans.... And also
Russia,
Germany, Mexico, Canada, Chile ecc was against usa on Iraq
resolution
remeber this...


So your original point should have been for Americans to withhold their
criticism of the French while the Europeans criticize the US? Thanks to
your message we now have another chance to start the international
criticism of those that put teeth into the UN and those that hide behind
the UN to avoid doing much, even when it is required. With as little as
the Europeans contribute to international security, it doesn't matter
much if they like the US or not. Often their contribution is only a
token gesture which gives them more pride than the US real assistance.

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Scott
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"Interestingly, we started to lose this war only after the embedded
reporters pulled out. Back when we got the news directly from Iraq,
there was victory and optimism. Now that the news is filtered through
the mainstream media here in America, all we hear is death and
destruction and quagmire..." Ann Coulter
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2003/091703.htm

In article , "IO"
wrote:

Chad Irby wrote:
In article ,
"IO" wrote:

I'm italian and in my opinion the "french bashing" is a stupid and
racist thing.

It's not a race issue.

We make the same comments about any idiots who act like that.

If you want to criticize Chirac ok... But please don't say that all the
french are monkeys or make stupid and false comments on French

Thats "cheese eating surrender monkeys" to be precise.

cowardy... Remember Die Bien Phu

They lost.

or french resistance against nazis...

They folded then spent the rest of the war ratting each other
out to the Gestapo.

Your (american) behaviour is very offensive to me and to europeans....
And also Russia, Germany, Mexico, Canada, Chile ecc was against usa on
Iraq resolution remeber this...

Oooooh, those damnable Canuckleheads, they are going to pay through
the nose for that......

IBM

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In article , "IO"
wrote:

Chad Irby wrote:
In article ,
"IO" wrote:

I'm italian and in my opinion the "french bashing" is a stupid and
racist thing.

It's not a race issue.

We make the same comments about any idiots who act like that.

If you want to criticize Chirac ok... But please don't say that all the
french are monkeys or make stupid and false comments on French

Thats "cheese eating surrender monkeys" to be precise.

cowardy... Remember Die Bien Phu

They lost.
Like you did......
.......and like you will in Irak


or french resistance against nazis...

They folded then spent the rest of the war ratting each other
out to the Gestapo.
Waouh,a historian!....

Your (american) behaviour is very offensive to me and to europeans....
And also Russia, Germany, Mexico, Canada, Chile ecc was against usa on
Iraq resolution remeber this...

Oooooh, those damnable Canuckleheads, they are going to pay through
the nose for that......

IBM


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The French are even hated by themselves!

http://tinyurl.com/qm7a

Garrison Hilliard wrote in message
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The French are even hated by themselves!

http://tinyurl.com/qm7a

Then they aren't as stupid as I had imagined. I'm sure their
self-hatred will soon be blamed on the US and McDonald's.

300 dead US soldiers to capture Iraq, 15,000 French deaths due to hot
weather, G-d help us if a soccer riot breaks out in France, there could
be millions of dead.

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Scott
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"Interestingly, we started to lose this war only after the embedded
reporters pulled out. Back when we got the news directly from Iraq,
there was victory and optimism. Now that the news is filtered through
the mainstream media here in America, all we hear is death and
destruction and quagmire..." Ann Coulter
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2003/091703.htm

15,000 French deaths due to hot weather

pathetic !! don't forget to speak about the 12000 people shot in the US
street in 2002

further more you don't have any lecon concerning the medical assistance !!!

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Franck

www.pegase-airshow.com
www.picavia.com

Franck wrote in message
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15,000 French deaths due to hot weather

pathetic !! don't forget to speak about the 12000 people shot in the
US
street in 2002

further more you don't have any lecon concerning the medical
assistance !!!


I'm sure that means something in some language.

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Scott
--------
"Interestingly, we started to lose this war only after the embedded
reporters pulled out. Back when we got the news directly from Iraq,
there was victory and optimism. Now that the news is filtered through
the mainstream media here in America, all we hear is death and
destruction and quagmire..." Ann Coulter
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2003/091703.htm

From: "Garrison Hilliard"

The French are even hated by themselves!

http://tinyurl.com/qm7a

Interesting article--and many of the other linked articles are quite
interesting, as well.

Here is an article by Clark S. Judge from a recent Policy Review that may be of
interest. It takes a look at US influence in the world and the reasons for
opposition to it from a very interesting angle. Title "Hegemony of the Heart":

http://www.policyreview.org/DEC01/judge.html

A few quotes to give you a sense of it:

"The great battle of the twentieth century was between freedom and
totalitarianism — an entirely political conflict. The great battle of the
twenty-first century may well be between the forces of creative destruction and
those of destructive preservation — much more a social and cultural conflict.
Americans will wonder, what have we done to be drawn into conflicts like the
present one? The answer is simple: Our example is the hope of those who are
striving and rising. We cannot escape this conflict by changing what we do in
foreign policy or other arenas of action, because in this arena our power
derives not from what we do but from who we are — and what we represent to
these new classes and those who oppose them.
****
"Yet like it or not, the world will not let us go. It might be said that in
country after country, those who are threatened on the top are seeking to
combine with those who are frustrated on the bottom against those who are
rising in the middle. We ask why they hate us, and the answer is that
“they� hate and fear so many people in their own countries for whom America
has become an emblem — and so far as they feel the same tug that these new
men and women feel, they hate themselves."


Chris Mark

Chris Mark wrote in message
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From: "Garrison Hilliard"

The French are even hated by themselves!

http://tinyurl.com/qm7a

Interesting article--and many of the other linked articles are quite
interesting, as well.

Here is an article by Clark S. Judge from a recent Policy Review that
may be of
interest. It takes a look at US influence in the world and the
reasons for
opposition to it from a very interesting angle. Title "Hegemony of the
Heart":

http://www.policyreview.org/DEC01/judge.html

A few quotes to give you a sense of it:

"The great battle of the twentieth century was between freedom and
totalitarianism - an entirely political conflict. The great battle of
the
twenty-first century may well be between the forces of creative
destruction and
those of destructive preservation - much more a social and cultural
conflict.
Americans will wonder, what have we done to be drawn into conflicts
like the
present one? The answer is simple: Our example is the hope of those
who are
striving and rising. We cannot escape this conflict by changing what
we do in
foreign policy or other arenas of action, because in this arena our
power
derives not from what we do but from who we are - and what we
represent to
these new classes and those who oppose them.
****
"Yet like it or not, the world will not let us go. It might be said
that in
country after country, those who are threatened on the top are seeking
to
combine with those who are frustrated on the bottom against those who
are
rising in the middle. We ask why they hate us, and the answer is that
"they" hate and fear so many people in their own countries for whom
America
has become an emblem - and so far as they feel the same tug that these
new
men and women feel, they hate themselves."


Chris Mark

Victor Davis Hanson makes a good point that what threatens the French
and the radical anti-Americans around the world is the eagerness of
their young to embrace what the US offers while considering their local
culture as dated.

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Scott
--------
"Interestingly, we started to lose this war only after the embedded
reporters pulled out. Back when we got the news directly from Iraq,
there was victory and optimism. Now that the news is filtered through
the mainstream media here in America, all we hear is death and
destruction and quagmire..." Ann Coulter
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2003/091703.htm

"tscottme" wrote in message
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Victor Davis Hanson makes a good point that what threatens the French
and the radical anti-Americans around the world is the eagerness of
their young to embrace what the US offers while considering their local
culture as dated.

I think the article came over a bit self-indulgent, but I think there's some
truth in what he says, (and what you suggest above.) Though in Europe at
least I don't think it's about the young considering their own cultures as
dated, but often the American money that comes with the imported
movies/clothing/music/food ensures that local products aren't able to
effectively compete. (Consider that the majority of movie theatres in the UK
are now owned by Amercan movie distributors, (like WB for example), it's
damn hard to get an audience for home grown movies without at least US
investment in the production. ) In effect, we're increasingly not given the
choice of accepting American cultural influence but feel it's being forced
upon us. Of course there are plenty of fine US movies/clothes/music/food,
but whoever remembers the good things?

Si