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WiFi at AirVenture (was:Does your airport WiFi?)



 
 
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Old April 27th 05, 02:34 PM
Dave Butler
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Default WiFi at AirVenture (was:Does your airport WiFi?)


On a related note: there was a thread here earlier about wireless access at
Oshkosh. IIRC the sad conclusion was that there was no access very nearby.

I wonder whether anyone has contacted EAA and requested that they get on the
stick and provide WiFi on the North 40.

Is there any chance EAA would do something like that?

Any idea how to approach EAA or whom to contact about it?

How about some entrepreneur/vendor/display booth setting up an access point on
the grounds, either for a fee or as a public service for the advertising value?

Dave
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Old April 27th 05, 05:28 PM
Blanche
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In article 1114609193.690100@sj-nntpcache-3, Dave Butler wrote:
On a related note: there was a thread here earlier about wireless access at
Oshkosh. IIRC the sad conclusion was that there was no access very nearby.

I wonder whether anyone has contacted EAA and requested that they get on the
stick and provide WiFi on the North 40.

Is there any chance EAA would do something like that?

Any idea how to approach EAA or whom to contact about it?

How about some entrepreneur/vendor/display booth setting up an access point on
the grounds, either for a fee or as a public service for the advertising value?


[not a flame, just a gripe]

You kidding? EAA can't even provide sufficient handwash stations around
the field. You expect anything higher-tech? I'm convinced PP has
an under-the-table deal with the companies that make those
water-less cleaning gels and baby wipes.

[end gripe]
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Old April 27th 05, 05:35 PM
Dave Butler
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Blanche wrote:
In article 1114609193.690100@sj-nntpcache-3, Dave Butler wrote:

On a related note: there was a thread here earlier about wireless access at
Oshkosh. IIRC the sad conclusion was that there was no access very nearby.

I wonder whether anyone has contacted EAA and requested that they get on the
stick and provide WiFi on the North 40.

Is there any chance EAA would do something like that?

Any idea how to approach EAA or whom to contact about it?

How about some entrepreneur/vendor/display booth setting up an access point on
the grounds, either for a fee or as a public service for the advertising value?



[not a flame, just a gripe]

You kidding? EAA can't even provide sufficient handwash stations around
the field. You expect anything higher-tech? I'm convinced PP has
an under-the-table deal with the companies that make those
water-less cleaning gels and baby wipes.

[end gripe]


Heh. Right. Good point, Blanche. I should have known better. I still think there
might be value for someone with a display booth, though. They'd probably need a
satellite internet provider, like, say, DirecWay. I think it would attract a lot
of people to their booth.
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Old April 27th 05, 08:02 PM
Darrel Toepfer
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Dave Butler wrote:

Heh. Right. Good point, Blanche. I should have known better. I still
think there might be value for someone with a display booth, though.
They'd probably need a satellite internet provider, like, say, DirecWay.
I think it would attract a lot of people to their booth.


Reads like "Burning Man". Course that might fit in with Montblack's
'black'n everything'...
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Old April 28th 05, 12:05 AM
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I don't promise what I am not absolutely SURE of delivering, but it is these
little amenities that a friendly person on the EAA Board of Directors might
be able to bring to pass.

Just a thought, mindya.


Jim


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Old April 28th 05, 12:25 AM
Montblack
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("RST Engineering" wrote)
I don't promise what I am not absolutely SURE of delivering, but it is
these little amenities that a friendly person on the EAA Board of Directors
might be able to bring to pass.



A broadband in every po(r)t?


Montblack

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Old April 28th 05, 02:39 AM
Jon A.
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I'll vote for the misguided Jim Weir. Hey, if can't make California
governor, then EAA director is just as good. I know he'll be just as
aggravated serving either one.

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:05:23 -0700, "RST Engineering"
wrote:

I don't promise what I am not absolutely SURE of delivering, but it is these
little amenities that a friendly person on the EAA Board of Directors might
be able to bring to pass.

Just a thought, mindya.


Jim


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Old April 27th 05, 08:00 PM
Juan Jimenez
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The fastest connection you can get at AirVenture, because of its distance
from the nearest facility, appears to be ISDN. There's no DSL, that I know
of, or anything faster. ANN sets up WiFi but encrypted for use by the staff
and stringers. It would be ridiculously easy to slow down an ISDN to a crawl
if it was opened up. In order to handle the traffic for so many people at
the show EAA would probably have to temporarily setup multiple T-1's, and
that costs a lot of money for just one week of the show...

"Dave Butler" wrote in message
news:1114609193.690100@sj-nntpcache-3...

On a related note: there was a thread here earlier about wireless access
at Oshkosh. IIRC the sad conclusion was that there was no access very
nearby.

I wonder whether anyone has contacted EAA and requested that they get on
the stick and provide WiFi on the North 40.

Is there any chance EAA would do something like that?

Any idea how to approach EAA or whom to contact about it?

How about some entrepreneur/vendor/display booth setting up an access
point on the grounds, either for a fee or as a public service for the
advertising value?

Dave



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Old April 27th 05, 08:35 PM
Dave Butler
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Juan Jimenez wrote:
The fastest connection you can get at AirVenture, because of its distance
from the nearest facility, appears to be ISDN.


I'm not sure there's no DSL, you could be right. DSL advertisers are notorious
liars. Also, there's satellite. If the bandwidth can't support the demand, the
number could be restricted to some arbitrary number of simultaneous users,
first-come first-served. Better than nothing.

There's no DSL, that I know
of, or anything faster. ANN sets up WiFi but encrypted for use by the staff
and stringers. It would be ridiculously easy to slow down an ISDN to a crawl
if it was opened up.


ISDN is not a practical solution.

In order to handle the traffic for so many people at
the show EAA would probably have to temporarily setup multiple T-1's, and
that costs a lot of money for just one week of the show...


I'd be willing to pay for access if there were an on-field provider. I suspect
I'm not alone.


"Dave Butler" wrote in message
news:1114609193.690100@sj-nntpcache-3...

On a related note: there was a thread here earlier about wireless access
at Oshkosh. IIRC the sad conclusion was that there was no access very
nearby.

I wonder whether anyone has contacted EAA and requested that they get on
the stick and provide WiFi on the North 40.

Is there any chance EAA would do something like that?

Any idea how to approach EAA or whom to contact about it?

How about some entrepreneur/vendor/display booth setting up an access
point on the grounds, either for a fee or as a public service for the
advertising value?

Dave






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Old April 28th 05, 05:36 AM
Juan Jimenez
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"Dave Butler" wrote in message
news:1114630866.771623@sj-nntpcache-3...
Juan Jimenez wrote:
The fastest connection you can get at AirVenture, because of its distance
from the nearest facility, appears to be ISDN.


I'm not sure there's no DSL, you could be right. DSL advertisers are
notorious liars. Also, there's satellite. If the bandwidth can't support
the demand, the number could be restricted to some arbitrary number of
simultaneous users, first-come first-served. Better than nothing.


If you think about it, the area where the show takes place is well separated
from the rest of civilization. For DSL to work you have to be a certain
distance from the closest telco facility, due to limitations of POTS wire.

There's no DSL, that I know of, or anything faster. ANN sets up WiFi but
encrypted for use by the staff and stringers. It would be ridiculously
easy to slow down an ISDN to a crawl if it was opened up.


ISDN is not a practical solution.

In order to handle the traffic for so many people at the show EAA would
probably have to temporarily setup multiple T-1's, and that costs a lot
of money for just one week of the show...


I'd be willing to pay for access if there were an on-field provider. I
suspect I'm not alone.


There is. If you can use a cellphone, you can probably use one of their
PCMCIA access cards and hook up that way. If you can rent cellphones, why
not the cards? There's a business opportunity for ya. Pitch it to EAA.

Juan


 




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