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"Paul J. Adam" wrote:
In message , Krztalizer writes Obviously you haven't watched an aircraft fire a cannon into the air at night. Basically, it looks like a little chain of pearls and yes its quite visible from a ways off. Is that tracer? Nope - just big blobs of 20mm dancing off into the night. No tracer in the USN A-7s and F-14s that I have seen shoot at night - the A-7 guy emptied his gun at the moon in preparation for a night belly landing and we could clearly see each individual 20mm in the long chain of shots. Quite dramatic, actually. Wouldn't have guessed it - thanks for the info. (I was watching a 30mm trial recently and while I could spot the vortex trail left by the shells when I knew exactly where and when to look, in daylight the shells were quite invisible if the tracer didn't function) Me too, if it had been most any other than who it was I'd have moved on...I know you can see the shock wave(?) of a .303 bullet on a rifle range while looking through a 'spotting scope' (from the shooter's position) but unless it's a tracer you cannot see anything (day or night) with your unassisted sight. Gordon, you're certain that that wasn't tracer are you?. -- -Gord. |
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says... (B2431) wrote Hey, don't insult loons. They are nice birds. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Germany 1920s = Russia 1990s Tsar Vladimir Putin might be the man to watch on this century. Check similarities between Russia in the 1990s and Germany in the 1920s. Germany loses a big war, WW1. So did Russia.. Russia losses a big war, Cold War. Germany was very poor in the 1920s. Russia was very poor in the 1990s and the 1920's, 1930's, 1940's...... Anti-semitism in Germany in the 1920s and 1930s. Anti-semitism in Russia in the 1990s and 2000s (check the russian newspapers). Anti-semitism in Russia, period. Germany lost territories after WW1. Russia (Soviet Union) lost territories (10 times the size of France) after Cold War. They wern't Rusia's to loose. Germany a bad economy in the 1920s. Russia a bad economy in the 1990s. and the 1920's, 1930's, 1940's...... Germany and Prussia had a strong military heritage. Russia has always had a strong military heritage. Not. Germans humiliated by foreign powers. Russians humiliated by foreign powers. humiliated by themselves for following a foriegner, Stalin. Germans angry at the situation, almost losing faith. Russians angry at the situation, almost losing faith. Germany: a popular leader gets to power and restore the pride of German people. The man almost conquers all Europe. Russia: a popular leader gets to power, people like him, he likes people. He promises to restore the former might and pride of Imperial Russia. This man is trying to unite whole Europe, Western European leaders love him. Yes, they love him. German Cancellor and Italian Prime Minister are his admirers. Once the British kick Blair out, the new Prime Minister will be friendly to Russia and Europe because that is where England naturally belongs. You realize you just equated your leader to HItler ? -- When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant. |
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Gordon,
you're certain that that wasn't tracer are you?. I am, actually. The A-7 is the one I frequently mention, on its way to a belly flop on Al Masira in mid 1985. Gear wouldnt lock so the Boss ordered him to get away from his deck - Masira was closest runway so off he went. On orders from the boat, he pickeled both Sidewinders (now THAT was an interesting sight!), then after a minute, rocked his nose back and hosed the sky with his 20mm - I can't imagine they were all tracers but from approx 15 NM, you could see an unbroken chain of light bulbs, chugging up into the night sky. I saw a Tomcat shoot once and don't recall the same sort of light show, but the Corsair's burst was entirely visible. I think now would be a GREAT time for one of our resident Navy pilot-types to come forward and 'splain if the A-7 really does carry tracer, or if this was a case where conditions made the departing rounds more visible than usual - I honestly don't know but I just can't picture that A-7 being loaded with tracers for a night DFW flight. v/r Gordon ====(A+C==== USN SAR Donate your memories - write a note on the back and send your old photos to a reputable museum, don't take them with you when you're gone. |
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Wouldn't have guessed it - thanks for the info. (I was watching a 30mm trial recently and while I could spot the vortex trail left by the shells when I knew exactly where and when to look, in daylight the shells were quite invisible if the tracer didn't function) When the New Jersey came to take its frustrations out against San Clemente island, we were overhead and offset by some 1.5 miles, we could see the rounds in flight and feel the concussion. Mighty fun way to spend a couple hours in a doorway. "Range officer! That last one took down at least five goats! No...wait...one is back up - FIRE FOR EFFECT!!" Sick? Oh.... yes. G |
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nt (Krztalizer) wrote
Hey, Mango, when did YOU visit Russia? Never? Then pipe down. I have many Russian and Serbian friends. They tell me that zio-NATO will pay with blood, with blood, with BLOOD, with BLOOD !!!! the illegal bombing over the independent and Christian country of Serbia. Zio-NATO is cursed. I have never been in Holy Imperial Mother Russia, but I know all the countries in Europe, all of them. I have been to Africa, too. Yes, Africa: Detroit, London, Paris and Amsterdam. Do you want me to show you my passport, so you can see how it has been stamped ? Sorry, NO can DO, that is private information. Sorry ..... Why insist on using the term Tsar, when everything it represented CAUSED the revolution in the first place? Russia under the Tsars was oppressive and backward. Vladimir Putin is the TSAR of all Holy Russias. He has the command of GOD to be the Emperator of http://www.imperium-europa.org . The October Revolution was caused by those evil international manipulators who, like parasites, suck money from Imperial Germany. It is funny, because kikelandia = jewishlandia was not a formal state until the end of the decade of 1940's. So, they do not have legal right to demand "reparations" from Imperial Germany. The kikes were citizens of Soviet Union, France, Germany, Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium, Italy, Poland, etc..... No one was citizen of Israel. The reparations had to go to the countries where those kikes were citizens of. It is equivalent to the Arab countries and Israel asking the Catholic Church for "reparations" due to the Crusades. Soviet Union lost 20 million people. Out of those 20 million, 11 million were civilians. Kikelandia = Jewishlandia claims 6 million vaporized, then Soviet Union deserves twice as much of "reparations" from Germany. Back on your medication, fruitcake. You don't "save" Europe by occupying half of it for 50 years. Yes you do, look at Amsterdam, London and Paris. They are Muslim African cities. Those cities will have to kick out many non-Europeans before joining http://www.imperium-europa.org . I ran out of medication. I need to get more. Holy Imperial Mother Russia will be the star of Liberty, Freedom and Christianity in the third millenium. right after monkeys fly out of my ass. Sure, there are a lot of monkeys in America, London, Amsterdam and Paris. Choose your favorite language or accent. Are you telling me that you have sex with monkeys ? I do not understand you, are you sure English is your first language ? Mango, you're delusional, and not in a good way. Who is Mango ? Do you suffer of Dislexia ? I am Alessadro Magnus, The Emperator !!!! |
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Schelkunchik,
Did you enjoy your Kosher burger ? Did you enjoy your lemonade ? Learn to respect your superiors. I am your Emperator. Alessandro Magnus III, The Emperator of http://www.imperium-europa.org |
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"Jarg" wrote
This is way out of line. You should be ashamed of yourself. And you are undoubtedly in violation of your ISP agreement. My ISP agreement ? What is that ? Could you, please, be more specific ? Please, enlight me, it is an order. I am your Emperator. What does ISP stand for? International Stupid People ? I am not a member of that organization as you are. You and Keith "The Ostrich" Willshaw can enjoy your ISP loser organization. Alessandro Magnus III http://www.imperium-europa.org |
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"John Keeney" wrote
Please quit feeding him. Chicken ? You guys started to make fun of Holy Russian Military Equipment. Envy ? You should think about respect before making fun of me and Mother Russia. Understood ? Keith "the Ostrich" Willshaw thinks I am in Mexico, he cannot find his ass with his two hands. Do you think he can find where I am ? Alessandro Magnus III Emperator of http://www.imperium-europa.org |
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