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Dean,
http://www.acq.osd.mil/dsb/b52.pdf Page 31 (of the actual document, not the .pdf page numbering!) Not a great pic, but was the only I've seen David (SSNBuff) wrote in message ... I would love to see a schematic or drawing of a B-52 with four engines. Do any exist? Dean |
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If you do a search for Dale Brown or Megafortress, there are several
drawings & photos (retouched, of course) of Dale Brown's "Old Dog" with 4 engines. It has the other Old Dog mods, but it has the 4 engines. There's a book by Walter J Boyne about the B-52 that has some drawings of 4 engine B-52s. One with 1 on each pylon, & another with 2 huge 'fans paired on the inboard pylons. These are probably '70s, maybe '80s "proposals". |
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Okay - how about a twin-engined B52 using two of GE's 115000 pound
thrust engines? If that's not enough push, put ABs on them. (G). Walt BJ I think with all our engine driven accessories (hydraulic pumps and generators) the min we could get down to is 4. BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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"BUFDRVR" wrote in message ... Okay - how about a twin-engined B52 using two of GE's 115000 pound thrust engines? If that's not enough push, put ABs on them. (G). Walt BJ I think with all our engine driven accessories (hydraulic pumps and generators) the min we could get down to is 4. Picture in your mind the "oh no" bird, known for his odd warbling sounding much like "oh no, oh no" on each landing approach; with his 2 inch legs and three inch balls ... |
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In article , Tarver Engineering
writes "BUFDRVR" wrote in message ... Okay - how about a twin-engined B52 using two of GE's 115000 pound thrust engines? If that's not enough push, put ABs on them. (G). Walt BJ I think with all our engine driven accessories (hydraulic pumps and generators) the min we could get down to is 4. Picture in your mind the "oh no" bird, known for his odd warbling sounding much like "oh no, oh no" on each landing approach; with his 2 inch legs and three inch balls ... On this side of the pond it's called the Oomigoolie Bird. Distantly related to the Keereye Bird, the Ooh-ah Bird and the fabled Oozlum Bird. -- Peter Ying tong iddle-i po! |
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Has anyone done a study about the usability of such a beast? Could be useful
against hardened targets if you could overcome problems like: 1: Size- you'd need a lotta motor to get a projectile to Mach 5 or higher in the lower atmosphere. 2: Heating-keeping it from melting. 3: Guidance 4: Range Maybe some of the technology from the old Sprint ABM missle could be used. ISTR a proposal for AXE - a plan to use a MX/Peacekeeper first stage as a booster for an area denial weapon (large quantity of submunitions instead of upper stage(s)/warhead bus/RVs on top). I would think that the ability to _accurately_ hit a hardened target with a LARGE DU/tungsten/titanium penetrator would be very handy indeed, even if you had to launch it by first dropping it from a large transport craft, a la the C-141/Minuteman tests of 25+ years ago! Comments? Bert |
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"Bert Fiore" wrote in message ... Has anyone done a study about the usability of such a beast? Could be useful against hardened targets if you could overcome problems like: 1: Size- you'd need a lotta motor to get a projectile to Mach 5 or higher in the lower atmosphere. 2: Heating-keeping it from melting. 3: Guidance 4: Range Maybe some of the technology from the old Sprint ABM missle could be used. ISTR a proposal for AXE - a plan to use a MX/Peacekeeper first stage as a booster for an area denial weapon (large quantity of submunitions instead of upper stage(s)/warhead bus/RVs on top). I would think that the ability to _accurately_ hit a hardened target with a LARGE DU/tungsten/titanium penetrator would be very handy indeed, even if you had to launch it by first dropping it from a large transport craft, a la the C-141/Minuteman tests of 25+ years ago! Comments? Bring back the Grand Slam, 22,000 lb of hardened steel at Mach 2 should do the job nicely with a guidance package attached. It should be possible for a B-52 to carry one under each wing where the Hounddog's used to go Keith |
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"Bert Fiore" wrote in message ...
Has anyone done a study about the usability of such a beast? Could be useful against hardened targets if you could overcome problems like: 1: Size- you'd need a lotta motor to get a projectile to Mach 5 or higher in the lower atmosphere. 2: Heating-keeping it from melting. 3: Guidance 4: Range Maybe some of the technology from the old Sprint ABM missle could be used. ISTR a proposal for AXE - a plan to use a MX/Peacekeeper first stage as a booster for an area denial weapon (large quantity of submunitions instead of upper stage(s)/warhead bus/RVs on top). I would think that the ability to _accurately_ hit a hardened target with a LARGE DU/tungsten/titanium penetrator would be very handy indeed, even if you had to launch it by first dropping it from a large transport craft, a la the C-141/Minuteman tests of 25+ years ago! Comments? Bert Various studies and experaments have already been conducted, or are underway, of the viability of using long range ballistic missiles, ranging from the Army's short range ATACMS all the way up to and including use of conventionaly armed Minuteman ICBM's as deep penetration weapons. In addition, there is a current R&D effort afoot to develop a hypersonic strike system to strike time critical targets; one owuld imagine that it could also serve as a means of striking very deep/very hard targets. I'd suspect that unless range is a non-issue, the ballistic missile approach might be better than an air launched hypersonic vehicle as a near-term deep penetrator. The technology is already there and proven, meaning lower development risk. Brooks |
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