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Latest Newsletter Pipistrel Motorgliders
Hello guys,
We have just published the latest newsletter for the Pipistrel Sinus and Virus Motorgliders manufactured in Slovenia. This newsletter features... Important information and pictures on flutter testing which may be of interest to a number of readers. The new factory has started construction. The Pipistrel Demonstration Team Update on the "Flight for Sight" project All this can be found on the following link http://www.mcp.com.au/sinus/newslett...sletter-8.html Enjoy, Michael Coates X-Air Australia |
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We have just published the latest newsletter for the Pipistrel Sinus and Virus Motorgliders manufactured in Slovenia. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ VIRUS motorgliders ??? You too can be the envy of the tea party when you tell 'em... Ya got a.... VIRUS in Slovenia. g Barnyard BOb- not from Madison Avenue |
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We have just published the latest newsletter for the Pipistrel Sinus and Virus Motorgliders manufactured in Slovenia. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ VIRUS motorgliders ??? You too can be the envy of the tea party when you tell 'em... Ya got a.... VIRUS in Slovenia. g Barnyard BOb- not from Madison Avenue P.S. I didn't mention SINUS..... cause mine are in good shape. However, it might be worth noting that anyone looking to market a product in the USA or elsewhere... contemplate/research names very carefully. It can spell the difference between disaster and success at times. 1 = pipistrel - small european bat also known as a flittermouse. 2 = Sinus - Pathology, A fistula leading from a pus-filled cavity. 3 = Virus - Various simple submicroscopic parasites of plants, animals, and bacteria that often cause disease. The guffaws have started ringing loud and clear throughout the aviation land already. Good thing this isn't baseball. Barnyard BOb --image can mean everything |
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"Barnyard BOb --" wrote in message ... We have just published the latest newsletter for the Pipistrel Sinus and Virus Motorgliders manufactured in Slovenia. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ VIRUS motorgliders ??? You too can be the envy of the tea party when you tell 'em... Ya got a.... VIRUS in Slovenia. g Barnyard BOb- not from Madison Avenue P.S. I didn't mention SINUS..... cause mine are in good shape. However, it might be worth noting that anyone looking to market a product in the USA or elsewhere... contemplate/research names very carefully. It can spell the difference between disaster and success at times. 1 = pipistrel - small european bat also known as a flittermouse. 2 = Sinus - Pathology, A fistula leading from a pus-filled cavity. 3 = Virus - Various simple submicroscopic parasites of plants, animals, and bacteria that often cause disease. The guffaws have started ringing loud and clear throughout the aviation land already. Good thing this isn't baseball. Barnyard BOb --image can mean everything I'm reminded of the marketing goof by Mitsubishi when they first brought out the MU-2: "Brought to you by the same people that brought you the Zero!" OUCH Rick Pellicciotti |
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"Rick Pellicciotti" wrote in message news:3f5f36df$1@ham... I'm reminded of the marketing goof by Mitsubishi when they first brought out the MU-2: "Brought to you by the same people that brought you the Zero!" OUCH My ex-marketing guy's favorite line used to be "If you can't stand the heat, stay out of Nagasaki." I tried to keep him away from our Japanese customers. |
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Barnyard BOb -- wrote:
We have just published the latest newsletter for the Pipistrel Sinus and Virus Motorgliders manufactured in Slovenia. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ VIRUS motorgliders ??? You too can be the envy of the tea party when you tell 'em... Ya got a.... VIRUS in Slovenia. g Barnyard BOb- not from Madison Avenue P.S. I didn't mention SINUS..... cause mine are in good shape. However, it might be worth noting that anyone looking to market a product in the USA or elsewhere... contemplate/research names very carefully. It can spell the difference between disaster and success at times. 1 = pipistrel - small european bat also known as a flittermouse. 2 = Sinus - Pathology, A fistula leading from a pus-filled cavity. 3 = Virus - Various simple submicroscopic parasites of plants, animals, and bacteria that often cause disease. The guffaws have started ringing loud and clear throughout the aviation land already. Good thing this isn't baseball. Barnyard BOb --image can mean everything dream wings was choosing a new name for their plane, they thought valkyrie was a neat one, I suggested The Shyster someone made a nice plane, side by side, and called it a Wizard, the name of a really sloppy flying quick clone from the early 80's,,,,,,,, -- Mark Smith Tri-State Kite Sales http://www.trikite.com 1121 N Locust St Mt Vernon, IN 47620 |
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On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:30:00 -0400, "Ron Natalie"
wrote: : :"Rick Pellicciotti" wrote in message news:3f5f36df$1@ham... : : I'm reminded of the marketing goof by Mitsubishi when they first brought out : the MU-2: : : "Brought to you by the same people that brought you the Zero!" : : OUCH : :My ex-marketing guy's favorite line used to be "If you can't stand the heat, :stay out of Nagasaki." I tried to keep him away from our Japanese customers. When Mitsubishi was getting ready to launch a sports car in the US a few years ago they hired a NY advertizing firm and tried to run the campaign from Japan. They sent pictures and video footage and their Japanese advertizing, but all the text was in Japanese (no surprise). The NY firm called their Japanese contact and asked what the car was named. They were told "Starrion." So they built a campaign around the name "Starrion" and printed literature and started buying ad space. It wasn't until ads had been running in the US for a month that someone found out the car was supposed to be named "Stallion." === My name is Nobody |
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"Barnyard BOb --" wrote in message ... However, it might be worth noting that anyone looking to market a product in the USA or elsewhere... contemplate/research names very carefully. It can spell the difference between disaster and success at times. One famous example of an international marketing disaster is the time that GM decided to market the Nova in South America. I guess they didn't have any hispanics on their marketing team, or they would have picked up on the fact that "Nova" can be translated in Spanish as "No Go", and they probably would have taken the simple step of marketing the car under a different name! Needless to say, they sold few "No Gos" in South America. Vaughn 1 = pipistrel - small european bat also known as a flittermouse. 2 = Sinus - Pathology, A fistula leading from a pus-filled cavity. 3 = Virus - Various simple submicroscopic parasites of plants, animals, and bacteria that often cause disease. The guffaws have started ringing loud and clear throughout the aviation land already. Good thing this isn't baseball. Barnyard BOb --image can mean everything |
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FAA (US)
Thread : Number 19 of 74 in thread Author : Adp Date/Time: 21:18 18 August 2003 Wrote; A motor glider is NOT a powered Aircraft!!!! It is a glider with a motor. Check your airworthiness certificate. It says GLIDER. No rule applicable to powered aircraft is applicable to a Motor Glider. Let me say it one more time, a motor glider is a GLIDER with a Motor and is NOT a powered aircraft. Write it 1000 times, a motor glider is a GLIDER! Allan ********* Chuck Writes; This has been very interesting discussion of the ELT requirements related to Motorgliders. And much was written related to the regulations. The SSA Governmental Liaison responds with the correct interpretation below (referenced web link provided) From the SSA; Frequent Questions 3/6/2002 SSA GOVERNMENT LIAISON FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (March 6, 2002) DOES MY GLIDER OR MOTORGLIDER REQUIRE AN EMERGENCY LOCATOR TRANSMITTER (ELT) ? NO. FAR 91.207(a) states that the EMERGENCY locator transmitters must be carried aboard U. S. registered civil AIRPLANES. Gliders and motorgliders carry a U.S. airworthiness certificate that states 'Glider' and therefore are not affected by this rule. http://www.ssa.org/ListGovtNewsDetail.asp?Action=&id=26 But, lets not stop there related to definitions, regulations and requirements. My focus is upon Private Glider Pilot-in fixed wing experimental aircraft as an alternative to the Sport Pilot initiative with it's focus on no medical required. The Private Glider Pilot Certificate is already available to the pilot that is unable to obtain a medical, but still wants to fly. It appears that these privileges AND AIRCRAFT capabilities are far greater than those offered by the Sport Pilot Proposal. And, the Infrastructure for training and certification is already in place. These greater privileges include; no medical (self cert) (Sport requires State Driver license) no weight restriction (Sport = 1235lbs Gross) no passenger restriction (surprised?) (Sport = 2 px) no speed restriction (Sport =132mph) no restriction on retractable gear (Sport =restricted) no restriction of in-flight adjustable prop. (Sport = restricted) no multi engine or type restriction (Sport = single engine ) no altitude restrictions (including Class A windows) (Sport =10,000ft) no airspace restrictions (Sport = Endorsement required - no ELT requirements (Sport = for more than one seat - required - no transponder requirement in Mode-C veil (Sport = required -) flight at night permitted (Sport = Restricted to Day VFR with greater visibility requirements : 3 mile Class G) Transitional training for Private Pilot serves as BFR and is only 3 hours Minimum new Glider student Training hours =10. (Sport = 17hours) Recognised by IOAC - Sport and Rec.Pilot not recognised Flight outside US borders permited - Sport/Rec. =no No make/model endorsement requirements. (Sport = requires endorsement for EACH make and model) (Make and model endorsement required of all Private Pilots flying under Sport Privileges without a medical) No Tailwheel endorsement required (Sport = standards set within the FAR's) No endorsement for 'complex' operations - (Variable pitch prop, retract gear, flaps) Sport = don't even think about it No endorsement for 'high performance' Glider (greater than 200 HP.) Part 61.31(e) (f) (if you doubt any of these findings, please site the appropriate FAR that contradicts. Within the regulations for certification/registration of EXPERIMENTAL aircraft, (Special Airworthiness) there are no minimum requirements related to the designs, flight characteristics, weight or configuration for the registration/airworthyness certifications of an EXPERIMENTAL glider (motorglider...motor does not appear on the registration) Therefore, I think it very possible to register any experimental aircraft as experimental glider and enjoy all of the privileges associated with that pilot certification. As an example of one such registration, I submit the following, A Quicksilver MXII Ultralight trainer. - BURNS JOHN M III Model Name : QCKSLVR MX 2 SPRINT Manufacturer : BURNS JOHN M III Model Name : QCKSLVR MX 2 SPRINT Aircraft Type : Glider N-number : N62538 Engine Type : Reciprocating Aircraft Category : Land Number of Engines : 1 Number of Seats : 2 Max. Gross Weight : Less than 12,500 lbs Amateur Certification : Yes Aircraft Code : 05607UQ AND Burt Rutan's 16 ft wing span, rocket powered - SpaceShipOne rocket-propelled glider http://www.compositesworld.com/hpc/issues/2003/July/150 'the current craft, expected to be certified as an 'experimental research and development glider,' could not see commercial service, (because of it's experimental registration) but Rutan considers it a 'subscale proof-of-concept design for a ten-person spacecraft'more suitable for a tourist venture. Below is the FAA web site for the certification of aircraft http://www1.faa.gov/certification/aircraft/ It is primarily broken down into 'Standard Airworthiness' (manufactured) And 'Special Airworthyness' (homebuilt/experimental) Under STANDARD AIRWORTINESS, 'guidelines' are given to manufactures of aircraft, including gliders. WITHIN this STANDARD AIRWORTHINESS area is - FAA Advisory Circular 21.17-2A, Type Certification - Fixed Wing Gliders (Sailplanes) Including Powered Gliders. (MANUFACTURED type certificated) Please click on the pdf. file and note the 'guidelines' for MANUFACTURED gliders...ie 'maximum' (what ever that is) weight divided by wingspan Sq. must be less that 0.62 ' and maximum seats - 2 This ADVISORY CIRCULAR is to be used as a GUIDELINE for the manufacture of STANDARD airworthiness aircraft (gliders) - FAA Advisory Circular 21.17-2A, Type Certification - Fixed Wing Gliders (Sailplanes) Including Powered Gliders. It is interesting to note, that the Schweitser SGS 2-33 is certificated for 3 passengers.....When the guidelines call out for 2 passengers.......Hence, 'guidlines'...not regulations Under SPECIAL AIRWORTHINESS, guidelines are given for all other aircraft that are NOT 'STANDARD' ie. Experimental, Primary Category restricted, limited, special use. Within the SPECIAL AIRWORTHINESS guidelines, FAA states that their intent is not to certify or restrict the types of designs that an 'experimental' builder might use. AGAIN, the address is - http://www1.faa.gov/certification/aircraft/ AND the document will appear - Airworthiness Certification FAQ Standard Airworthiness Certificate: http://www1.faa.gov/certification/aircraft/ Normal Category Utility Category Acrobatic Category Commuter Category Transport Category Manned Free Balloons Special Classes of Aircraft Special Airworthiness Certificate: http://www1.faa.gov/certification/aircraft/ Primary Category Restricted Category Limited Category Provisional Category Special Flight Permits Experimental Category Multiple Certificates Special Flight Authorization Export Approvals Import Approvals Another interesting finding, An Airplane is required to have wings....A glider is not required to have wings...only 'lifting surfaces' See definitions in Part 1 of FAR's Your input is welcomed Chuck |
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Barnyard BOb -- wrote: I didn't mention SINUS..... cause mine are in good shape. However, it might be worth noting that anyone looking to market a product in the USA or elsewhere... contemplate/research names very carefully. It can spell the difference between disaster and success at times. 1 = pipistrel - small european bat also known as a flittermouse. 2 = Sinus - Pathology, A fistula leading from a pus-filled cavity. 3 = Virus - Various simple submicroscopic parasites of plants, animals, and bacteria that often cause disease. The guffaws have started ringing loud and clear throughout the aviation land already. Good thing this isn't baseball. Brings to mind the "WANG" computer. In the computer world, "smaller, faster, cheaper" has always been the mantra. Now who in the hell would want a smaller, faster, cheaper Wang??? Rick P. |
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