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Old September 30th 10, 01:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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On Sep 29, 4:54*pm, Mike Adams wrote:

Back to the original question, are there any other cases (besides possibly the extremely offset localizer)
when you would not be able to track the ILS when doing a VFR straight-in approach?


Exactly like I said, in Bravo. If you intend to do a practice ILS
approach, I would hope you would want to pick it up at the IAF?

If you have been given instructions by ATC, approved straight in
approach, it's expected you make a reasonable beeline to the threshold
so ATC can maintain spacing. Part of that includes getting lined up
for the runway so yes, you can slide down the glide slope at will but
that hardly is a practice ILS approach!

If you are outside the IAF and it's between you and the threshold OR
OFFSET from the final approach course in a reasonable distance, sure,
knock your socks off but if it requires more then a significant
heading change from my nose pointed toward the threshold, I MYSELF
would get a clearance for that practice approach FROM THE CONTROLLER
in BRAVO airspace.

All ATC sees is your nose pointing away from the airport and you right
fully should get chewed out or asked what your intentions are since
your deviations may become an spacing issue for the controller AND THE
AIRPLANE BEHIND YOU.

Mx is clueless in the real world, he plays a game in MSFS and thinks
that MSFS simulates the real world.
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Old September 30th 10, 01:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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On Sep 29, 5:17*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

It doesn't sound like you spend a lot of time in Class B airspace, however.

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Old September 30th 10, 01:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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On Sep 29, 7:16*pm, " wrote:

Mx is clueless in the real world, he plays a game in MSFS and thinks
that MSFS simulates the real world.


CORRECTION TO THE ABOVE

The above should read.

Mx is clueless in the real world, he plays a game in MSFS and thinks
that MSFS IS the real world.
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Old September 30th 10, 01:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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On Sep 29, 5:16*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:
WRONG.


YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE NOT CONSIDERING THERE IS MORE TO A GLIDE SLOPE TO AN
ILS APPROACH IN RELATIONSHIP TO WHERE YOU ARE.


What?


EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.
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Old September 30th 10, 07:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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AND HOW MUCH TIME HAVE YOU SPENT IN BRAVO AIRSPACE AS PIC IN A REAL
PLANE???????????????????


I've spent hundreds of hours in it in simulation, and that's a lot more useful
as experience than nearly zero hours in real life.
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On Sep 30, 1:36*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:
AND HOW MUCH TIME HAVE YOU SPENT IN BRAVO AIRSPACE AS PIC IN A REAL
PLANE???????????????????


I've spent hundreds of hours in it in simulation, and


SO YOU PRETEND YOU ARE SOMETHING YOU ARE NOT?????????? AND YOU STILL
FAILED TO ANSWER THE DIRECT QUESTION.

that's a lot more useful
as experience than nearly zero hours in real life.


WRONG AS YOU HAVE PROVEN BY YOUR REPLIES IN THIS THREAD.
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Old October 1st 10, 09:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Mxsmanic wrote:
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WRONG. I DO WHAT ATC WANTS.


If ATC doesn't give you any instructions, it is impossible to do "what ATC
wants." In Class B airspace, you must follow ATC instructions, but ATC won't
necessarily give any restrictive instructions unless traffic conditions
warrant them.


This is incorrect. You forget to take into account that ATC
doesn't need to talk to you at all. That in itself is restrictive. If
ATC tells you "Aircraft calling for Class B clearance remain outside of
Class B airspace", it is restrictive, even if they do not acknowledge
you directly. If ATC doesn't answer your call, you are to remain
outside of Class B until they do. If they don't answer, too bad.

But I fly in the real world to know this.


It doesn't sound like you spend a lot of time in Class B airspace, however.


Nor do you, it seems.

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Old October 1st 10, 12:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

This is incorrect. You forget to take into account that ATC
doesn't need to talk to you at all.


I've already excluded that by considering only the case in which you are
cleared into the Class B, which makes the rest of your post moot.
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Old October 1st 10, 12:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:

This is incorrect. You forget to take into account that ATC
doesn't need to talk to you at all. That in itself is restrictive. If
ATC tells you "Aircraft calling for Class B clearance remain outside
of Class B airspace", it is restrictive, even if they do not
acknowledge
you directly. If ATC doesn't answer your call, you are to remain
outside of Class B until they do. If they don't answer, too bad.


Answering you isn't enough, if ATC does not clear you into Class B airspace
you are to remain outside.


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On Oct 1, 6:13*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

I've already excluded that by considering only the case in which you are
cleared into the Class B, which makes the rest of your post moot.


YOUR ORIGINAL POST WAS WRONG.

 




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