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SOLO flight rules
You will have to be signed off by and instructor for that aircraft. Do you
already own a flyable Scorpion? You will most likely have to get back in the R22 for your check ride. wrote in message ... Does anybody know for sure what the rules are on flying SOLO on a student license? What I want to do is finish my dual instruction in an R22 (the only heli the schools around here have). Then I want to complete my required solo hours in my own scorpion to save money. Can I do this? Dennis H. Dennis Hawkins n4mwd AT amsat DOT org (humans know what to do) "A Recession is when you know somebody who is out of work. A Depression is when YOU are out of work. A Recovery is when all the H1-B's are out of work." (An H-1B is someone who is brought into the USA to replace American workers at a fraction of the wage.) |
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Most of the problems with the one I have are due to age. A lot of the aluminum parts have surface oxidation that must be hand removed and polished. I am planning on having all the aluminum parts hard anodized so that they don't do that again. The tail rotor slider mechanism was rusted and I had to work it pretty hard to get it going again. I am planning on having the TR shaft hard chrome plated so that it will wear better. The steel frame is actually in remarkable shape. I'm not sure what they used to paint it, but I hope to get something that good to repaint it. The only components that I am really worried about are the blades. They only have about 25 hours on them, but also have age cracks in the composite. I haven't contacted BJ about the Scorpion One. I don't think he would have time to talk to me since he is very busy with his helicycle project. I have the blueprints for the Scorpion 2 and was considering getting those for the One, but the One is almost identical to the 2 so I'm not sure if I should bother. The bent cable is for the collective. Its a nutty way of doing things, but it does work. Its just not as good as a regular system. The only real problem with the bent cable rotor head is that it does not use elastomeric bearings. It uses unsealed thrust bearings instead. However, because of the way the cable head works, they only move when you actually move the collective. I'll probably have to spend a bit of time every few hours of operation greasing them, but a friend showed me a trick where I can grease them easily with a hypodermic needle. Hopefully that will make operating it more manageable. I'm still not sure what to do about the license. Dennis H. "Stu Fields" wrote: I had two Scorpion ones and sold them to a guy who had an A&P try to get them going. They still have not been in the air. He had a lot of trouble with slipping tail rotor belts. There are some problems with the old rotor head. B.J Schramm, the designer should be contacted about those problems. I believe I heard him tell one person not to fly the version with the looped cable in the head. I used to fly a Benson gyro with a McCullough engine. It was a quiet sewing machine compared to the sound of the Evinrude engine in the Scorpion. Be very careful. Stu Fields wrote in message ... "Gig Giacona" wrote: You will have to be signed off by and instructor for that aircraft. Do you already own a flyable Scorpion? You will most likely have to get back in the R22 for your check ride. My scorpion is a single seater and is not completely restored yet. I checked with Rotorway, but it does not seem that there is any way to get instruction in a scorpion one. I wonder if a scorpion 2 is close enough. The scopion 2 and scorpion one are basically the same helicopter with the 2 being bigger and wider. It is starting to look like I'm going to have to get my certificate by soloing in the R22 and then just switch to the scorpion afterwards. It seems like thats a waste of money though since I will have to relearn everything in the scorpion. I have all the parts to the scorpion one, but I am not sure what to do with the rotor blades. It looks like there are fine cracks in the composite. I wonder if simply recoating them with new resin will be good enough or if I have to rewrap them. They only have about 25 hours on them. I will also say that the scorpion 1 was definitely not designed for people with normal length legs. Its a real pain getting in and out of it. Dennis H. Dennis Hawkins n4mwd AT amsat DOT org (humans know what to do) "A RECESSION is when you know somebody who is out of work. A DEPRESSION is when YOU are out of work. A RECOVERY is when all the H-1B's are out of work." To find out what an H-1B is and how they are putting Americans out of work, visit the following web site and click on the "Exporting America" CNN news video: http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/MediaClips.htm Dennis Hawkins n4mwd AT amsat DOT org (humans know what to do) "A RECESSION is when you know somebody who is out of work. A DEPRESSION is when YOU are out of work. A RECOVERY is when all the H-1B's are out of work." To find out what an H-1B is and how they are putting Americans out of work, visit the following web site and click on the "Exporting America" CNN news video: http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/MediaClips.htm |
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wrote in message ... Most of the problems with the one I have are due to age. A lot of the aluminum parts have surface oxidation that must be hand removed and polished. I am planning on having all the aluminum parts hard anodized so that they don't do that again. The tail rotor slider mechanism was rusted and I had to work it pretty hard to get it going again. I am planning on having the TR shaft hard chrome plated so that it will wear better. The steel frame is actually in remarkable shape. I'm not sure what they used to paint it, but I hope to get something that good to repaint it. The only components that I am really worried about are the blades. They only have about 25 hours on them, but also have age cracks in the composite. I haven't contacted BJ about the Scorpion One. I don't think he would have time to talk to me since he is very busy with his helicycle project. I have the blueprints for the Scorpion 2 and was considering getting those for the One, but the One is almost identical to the 2 so I'm not sure if I should bother. The bent cable is for the collective. Its a nutty way of doing things, but it does work. Its just not as good as a regular system. The only real problem with the bent cable rotor head is that it does not use elastomeric bearings. It uses unsealed thrust bearings instead. However, because of the way the cable head works, they only move when you actually move the collective. I'll probably have to spend a bit of time every few hours of operation greasing them, but a friend showed me a trick where I can grease them easily with a hypodermic needle. Hopefully that will make operating it more manageable. I'm still not sure what to do about the license. Dennis H. "Stu Fields" wrote: I had two Scorpion ones and sold them to a guy who had an A&P try to get them going. They still have not been in the air. He had a lot of trouble with slipping tail rotor belts. There are some problems with the old rotor head. B.J Schramm, the designer should be contacted about those problems. I believe I heard him tell one person not to fly the version with the looped cable in the head. I used to fly a Benson gyro with a McCullough engine. It was a quiet sewing machine compared to the sound of the Evinrude engine in the Scorpion. Be very careful. Stu Fields wrote in message ... "Gig Giacona" wrote: You will have to be signed off by and instructor for that aircraft. Do you already own a flyable Scorpion? You will most likely have to get back in the R22 for your check ride. My scorpion is a single seater and is not completely restored yet. I checked with Rotorway, but it does not seem that there is any way to get instruction in a scorpion one. I wonder if a scorpion 2 is close enough. The scopion 2 and scorpion one are basically the same helicopter with the 2 being bigger and wider. It is starting to look like I'm going to have to get my certificate by soloing in the R22 and then just switch to the scorpion afterwards. It seems like thats a waste of money though since I will have to relearn everything in the scorpion. I have all the parts to the scorpion one, but I am not sure what to do with the rotor blades. It looks like there are fine cracks in the composite. I wonder if simply recoating them with new resin will be good enough or if I have to rewrap them. They only have about 25 hours on them. I will also say that the scorpion 1 was definitely not designed for people with normal length legs. Its a real pain getting in and out of it. Dennis H. Dennis Hawkins n4mwd AT amsat DOT org (humans know what to do) "A RECESSION is when you know somebody who is out of work. A DEPRESSION is when YOU are out of work. A RECOVERY is when all the H-1B's are out of work." To find out what an H-1B is and how they are putting Americans out of work, visit the following web site and click on the "Exporting America" CNN news video: http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/MediaClips.htm Dennis Hawkins n4mwd AT amsat DOT org (humans know what to do) "A RECESSION is when you know somebody who is out of work. A DEPRESSION is when YOU are out of work. A RECOVERY is when all the H-1B's are out of work." To find out what an H-1B is and how they are putting Americans out of work, visit the following web site and click on the "Exporting America" CNN news video: http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/MediaClips.htm Dennis, Do you have a PPL? If so, except for safety, you don't need anything for the rotorcraft. Phil |
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"PW" wrote:
Dennis, Do you have a PPL? If so, except for safety, you don't need anything for the rotorcraft. Phil I assume that you mean a private pilot license for helicopters. No. I haven't gotten that far. I'm still learning in the R22. I have had some people tell me that the scorpions were much harder to fly than the R22 and others tell me that they were easier. I'm totally confused. Dennis H. Dennis Hawkins n4mwd AT amsat DOT org (humans know what to do) "A RECESSION is when you know somebody who is out of work. A DEPRESSION is when YOU are out of work. A RECOVERY is when all the H-1B's are out of work." To find out what an H-1B is and how they are putting Americans out of work, visit the following web site and click on the "Exporting America" CNN news video: http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/MediaClips.htm |
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Dennis, I think he was trying to tell you you don't have to have a catagory
license to fly a single seat helicopter. Only a rating with that of a power plant included is required and a SEL will suffice. You can not fly a two seat though even if solo with out the Rotorcraft-Helicopter rating. Jim wrote in message ... "PW" wrote: Dennis, Do you have a PPL? If so, except for safety, you don't need anything for the rotorcraft. Phil I assume that you mean a private pilot license for helicopters. No. I haven't gotten that far. I'm still learning in the R22. I have had some people tell me that the scorpions were much harder to fly than the R22 and others tell me that they were easier. I'm totally confused. Dennis H. Dennis Hawkins n4mwd AT amsat DOT org (humans know what to do) "A RECESSION is when you know somebody who is out of work. A DEPRESSION is when YOU are out of work. A RECOVERY is when all the H-1B's are out of work." To find out what an H-1B is and how they are putting Americans out of work, visit the following web site and click on the "Exporting America" CNN news video: http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/MediaClips.htm |
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"Treetopper" wrote in message ... Dennis, I think he was trying to tell you you don't have to have a catagory license to fly a single seat helicopter. Only a rating with that of a power plant included is required and a SEL will suffice. You can not fly a two seat though even if solo with out the Rotorcraft-Helicopter rating. Jim wrote in message ... "PW" wrote: Dennis, Do you have a PPL? If so, except for safety, you don't need anything for the rotorcraft. Phil I assume that you mean a private pilot license for helicopters. No. I haven't gotten that far. I'm still learning in the R22. I have had some people tell me that the scorpions were much harder to fly than the R22 and others tell me that they were easier. I'm totally confused. Dennis H. Dennis Hawkins n4mwd AT amsat DOT org (humans know what to do) "A RECESSION is when you know somebody who is out of work. A DEPRESSION is when YOU are out of work. A RECOVERY is when all the H-1B's are out of work." To find out what an H-1B is and how they are putting Americans out of work, visit the following web site and click on the "Exporting America" CNN news video: http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/MediaClips.htm What Jim said. |
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"Treetopper" wrote: Dennis, I think he was trying to tell you you don't have to have a catagory license to fly a single seat helicopter. Only a rating with that of a power plant included is required and a SEL will suffice. You can not fly a two seat though even if solo with out the Rotorcraft-Helicopter rating. So now you have me curious. Hypothetically speaking. If a guy, for whatever reason, is a really good helicopter pilot but does not have a license, who then subsequently gets a US fixed wing private pilot license, can he legally fly a helicopter? Dennis Hawkins n4mwd AT amsat DOT org (humans know what to do) "A RECESSION is when you know somebody who is out of work. A DEPRESSION is when YOU are out of work. A RECOVERY is when all the H-1B's are out of work." To find out what an H-1B is and how they are putting Americans out of work, visit the following web site and click on the "Exporting America" CNN news video: http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/MediaClips.htm |
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wrote in message ... So now you have me curious. Hypothetically speaking. If a guy, for whatever reason, is a really good helicopter pilot but does not have a license, who then subsequently gets a US fixed wing private pilot license, can he legally fly a helicopter? Per 61.31(k)(2)(iii), yes, but only if it is an experimental aircraft, and if the DAR or inspector who signs the airworthiness certificate neglects to place a limitation in the aircraft's paperwork that would require category & class ratings on the pilot's certificate. Kris 61.31 (k) Exceptions. (2) The rating limitations of this section do not apply to - (iii) The holder of a pilot certificate when operating an aircraft under the authority of an experimental or provisional aircraft type certificate; |
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"Kris Kortokrax" wrote in message ...
wrote in message ... So now you have me curious. Hypothetically speaking. If a guy, for whatever reason, is a really good helicopter pilot but does not have a license, who then subsequently gets a US fixed wing private pilot license, can he legally fly a helicopter? Per 61.31(k)(2)(iii), yes, but only if it is an experimental aircraft, and if the DAR or inspector who signs the airworthiness certificate neglects to place a limitation in the aircraft's paperwork that would require category & class ratings on the pilot's certificate. Kris 61.31 (k) Exceptions. (2) The rating limitations of this section do not apply to - (iii) The holder of a pilot certificate when operating an aircraft under the authority of an experimental or provisional aircraft type certificate; Just a point of curiousity. Accepting payment for flight instruction in an experimental has been illegal unless it was a gyro with the PRA exemption. I believe the rules have changed recently, but how did Rotorway get away with giving lessons at their factory for all those years in experimental helicopters? Did they say it was "free" if you bought and built a kit? Kris, what you posted is correct, but many people interpret that when the OLs say something about proper category and class ratings in an experimental rotorcraft's OLs, that it just means a proper rating period, as in a fixed-wing or other rating requiring a medical. They never say specifically what type of rating as far as I know. This is something that will be argued until the end of the world it seems, as a straight answer cannot usually be gotten from the FAA that isn't contradicted by some other FAA poobah. Ken J. - Sandy A. Gowe |
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