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Old August 28th 08, 08:21 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Peter Hucker added these comments in the current discussion du
jour ...

Patriotism is so childish.


Well-founded patriotism is not childish nor is it old-fashioned.
What is childish is the brand of national pride many countries
practice far in excess of their accomplishments. Were it not for
the United States and Great Britain, there would be no free Europe
today. Were it not for the United States standing almost alone,
western Europe would have been overrun by the Warsaw Pact. And
today, were it not for the United States there would be no
effective military to counter modern style agression.

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Old August 28th 08, 11:20 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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In article ,
"HEMI-Powered" wrote:

Dave Whiley added these comments in the current discussion du jour
...

HEMI-Powered wrote:

What exactly does "the darker side of the world" mean?


You can't be serious! I hardly think that the reference was to
cloudy skies, it was clearly a transparent reference to our country
being portrayed as evil, but tolerable just long enough to snap
some pictures before going back to a place of enlightment on the
other side of the pond, and frankly, the more rebuttals I read the
more I feel this great country is being maligned by the very people
who benefit from their relationship with us economically,
politically, and militarily (for protection against a strategic
threat).


Good grief you are a moron, and a paranoid moron at that!
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Old August 29th 08, 11:20 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Peter Hucker wrote in
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:30:53 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
wrote:

"Sj" wrote in message
. ..

I sort of took it to mean that he traveled to the other
side of the equator ... I have friends in Australia &
often refer to it as the Land of Oz or the Land Down
Under ... I say those words out of a liking & fondness
for the country & it's people ...


You can't be serious! Australia isn't 'below' anything! (couldn't
resist).


It's below the sky. And don't confuse the Americans.


From Seattle, Oz is above its sky, or at least sorta up and to the right...

- Confused American ^,,^




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Old August 30th 08, 10:06 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Alan Erskine wrote:
"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message
.. .
Then, I would strong suggest all these folks that don't like us
mount their own strategic, tactical and anti-terrorist defenses


If it wasn't for the U.S., we wouldn't need an anti-terrorist defence.


LOL!

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Old August 30th 08, 05:29 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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"®i©ardo" wrote in message
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Alan Erskine wrote:
If it wasn't for the U.S., we wouldn't need an anti-terrorist defence.

LOL!


Oh, but it's true; if the United States and the (then) Soviet Union hadn't
spent the litterally *hundreds of billions of dollars* that took the form of
military equipment, and instead built schools, hospitals, universities,
water purification systems and.... good will.... we wouldn't have the
organisations that think we are all the same - the U.S. and Australia.

Instead, the U.S. has a memory problem - did you know that the Taliban were
supported by the U.S.? And before that, the U.S. supported the Mujahadin?

Also, it is to be remembered that in recent years, terrorism has struck
Russia - Chechnya is only part of that and Chechnya is often the
'whipping-boy' of Russia, along with Georgia (as has been seen in recent
weeks). There have been Soviet aircraft highjackings as well.

Did you know that the U.K (United Kingdom) created Israel out of territory
it had occupied for many years?

Is it any wonder that 'we' are thrown in the same barrel as America?

I'm not saying any of the decisions listed above were wrong, but if the U.S.
in particular had not used the Middle East as a testing ground for its
military equipment (remember the C-5 flights to 'support' Israel in the
early '70's?), the rest of us would not be suffering as we are.

'We' suffer because we are friendly with America. Note that I say
"friendly" - just like all most people are with their domestic neighbours -
friendly, not necessarily friends.

Now; Glenn was not being insulting to America as that idiot ("HEMI-Powered")
suggested. That idiot has been in other groups doing the same thing -
stirring up trouble for no other reason. Glenn was simply making a comment
that he was not at home. Glenn wasn't referring to America, but all the
countries he visited.

It wasn't an insult, it was a joke.


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Old August 30th 08, 07:18 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:21:34 -0500, "HEMI-Powered"
wrote:

Peter Hucker added these comments in the current discussion du
jour ...

Patriotism is so childish.


Well-founded patriotism is not childish nor is it old-fashioned.
What is childish is the brand of national pride many countries
practice far in excess of their accomplishments. Were it not for
the United States and Great Britain, there would be no free Europe
today. Were it not for the United States standing almost alone,
western Europe would have been overrun by the Warsaw Pact. And
today, were it not for the United States there would be no
effective military to counter modern style agression.


What I haven't seen is the US using it's military very effectively in
recent times. They've gone all soft. I can't believe you actually
gave Hussein a trial!
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Old August 30th 08, 07:19 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:20:02 GMT, Bob Harrington
wrote:

Peter Hucker wrote in
:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:30:53 GMT, "Alan Erskine"
wrote:

"Sj" wrote in message
...

I sort of took it to mean that he traveled to the other
side of the equator ... I have friends in Australia &
often refer to it as the Land of Oz or the Land Down
Under ... I say those words out of a liking & fondness
for the country & it's people ...

You can't be serious! Australia isn't 'below' anything! (couldn't
resist).


It's below the sky. And don't confuse the Americans.


From Seattle, Oz is above its sky, or at least sorta up and to the right...

- Confused American ^,,^


"Up" means away from gravitational pull.
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A Pan Am 727 flight waiting for start clearance in Munich overheard the following:
Lufthansa (in German): "Ground, what is our start clearance time?"
Ground (in English): "If you want an answer you must speak in English."
Lufthansa (in English): "I am a German, flying a German aeroplane, in Germany. Why must I speak English?"
Unknown voice from another plane (in a beautiful British accent): "Because you lost the bloody war."
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Old August 30th 08, 07:33 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Peter Hucker added these comments in the current discussion du
jour ...

Well-founded patriotism is not childish nor is it
old-fashioned. What is childish is the brand of national pride
many countries practice far in excess of their
accomplishments. Were it not for the United States and Great
Britain, there would be no free Europe today. Were it not for
the United States standing almost alone, western Europe would
have been overrun by the Warsaw Pact. And today, were it not
for the United States there would be no effective military
to counter modern style agression.


What I haven't seen is the US using it's military very
effectively in recent times. They've gone all soft. I can't
believe you actually gave Hussein a trial!


If you mean Iraq, I'd agree that our military hasn't been used
effective. But, the initial war in 2003 was over in only 3 weeks.
And, I take great umbrage to foreigners who have no stake in this
disparaging the brave men and women who wear our uniforms in the
defense of freedom everywhere so I don't appreciate people who
say we've gone soft.

I judge by the tone of your reply that you're a foreigner. Fine.
Now, how about discussing your country's recent successes and
failures in the War on Terror. At best, no country in the
coalition has deployed more than 5-10% of the US presence. As to
Saddam, it is necessary for our allies and those who are neutral
in the region to know that we stand for democracy and we stand
for fairness. To have sumarily executed Saddam, which many of us
would have preffered, would only serve to lower the United
States to the level of its enemies. You may recall that a great
deal of effort was taken by the Allies in WWII at both Nuremburg
and in trials for the Japs. That is necessary for countries that
want to claim that they are fair even to their enemies.

As to the rest of the world's military, outside Russia and China,
and maybe North Korea, the Western democracies have all gutted
their armies, navies, and air forces in order to save money and
divert it into social programs they deem more important. What I
wonder about is what would happen if the Eiffel Tower or Big Ben
were destroyed as was the World Trade Center. France and Great
Britain no longer have long-range strategic armed forces to
counter such a threat which leads most observers to think that
they can rely on the United States.

If Sen. McCain is elected president in November, there's a chance
our allies could count on us to help them if they're attacked but
if Sen. Obama becomes president, I think we can rely on him
gutting the military by tens of billions of dollars, recalling
troops from all over the world, and attempting to talk our
enemies down. Again, like Europe's Socialist states, Obama would
do this - and he has promised to do so for over a year - and he
would attempt to pay for his Big Government cradle to grave
programs with the presumed savings from gutting our military.

If history has shown us anything at all, it is that maintaining a
strong military is of paramont importance to deterring attacks or
major agression either on the United States per se or in any of
the world's hot spots.

--
HP, aka Jerry

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Old August 30th 08, 08:17 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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"Peter Hucker" wrote

I can't believe you actually
gave Hussein a trial!

I believe that it was Iraq that gave him a trial, not the US.

They would really like Iraq to stand on its own two feet. Of course, they
would like them to be democratic, secular feet, with a few military bases in
the country, too. ;-)
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Old August 30th 08, 08:20 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Morgans wrote:
"Peter Hucker" wrote

I can't believe you actually
gave Hussein a trial!

I believe that it was Iraq that gave him a trial, not the US.

They would really like Iraq to stand on its own two feet. Of course, they
would like them to be democratic, secular feet, with a few military bases in
the country, too. ;-)


Shh, don't mention the oil and gas reserves!

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