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Practice IMC in real IMC
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:28:32 GMT, Jose
wrote: Most of this can be done under the hood with an instructor, or safety pilot who is intimately familiar with the airplane and its requirements and is probably a lot safer. It's different in the clag. Hoodwork is helpful, but actual can be an eye-opener. Yah, it's *usually* a lot easier in the soup than under the hood. You don't get as many distractions and false clues at to attitude with maybe the exception of flicker vertigo. My instructor had me flying in actual right down to minimums to the point my first solo trip after getting the rating was right down to minimums. I was expecting I'd have to go over and shoot the ILS at MBS as most of the area was down to about 200 feet, but about 3 mile sout it opened up like flying down a inverted canyon about 2 miles wide, about 4 long, and about 600 high. (MDA is about 500 AGL) I was far more proficient then than I am now. I need to go spend some time under the hood and take an IPC refresher. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com Jose |
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Practice IMC in real IMC
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:13:37 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote: "Roger" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:36:59 GMT, Jose wrote: Let's see: I'm uncomfortable doing unusual attitude recovery in IMC. The For practice I think it's an unnecessary added risk and really adds nothing that you can't do under the hood. accident record shows this to be probably the top killer of IR pilots. I'm not so sure about that, but I don't know. In combining the latest Nall Report (which does more to report by aircraft type) and the data from the ASF's Beech Safety Report (which is more a comparison of Beech models but also of IR vs non-IR pilots), it _appears_ It should be interesting once there are more SR-22s out there. The Bo and Debonair (basically same airplane) are deceptively slippery when you look at the light wing loading, but slippery they are. You really need to be on your toes all the time and even more so when on instruments. That's one of the reasons you seldom see a Bo without a good autopilot that's flown in IMC. With the nose down that thing will accelerate to Vne in just a few seconds even though it has a lighter wing loading than some Cherokees. Now take a SR-22 which is very slippery and I believe has a higher wing loading and things can go down that slippery slope in a hurry. the biggest killer of IR pilots is flight into thunderstorms during IMC and Another reason to upgrade to a nice glass panel with satellite RADAR? loss of control while maneauvering in IMC (combined factors???...I'm not a I think if you fly into a thunderstorm the problems with maneuvering are a given. :-)) OTOH I've been 90 degreed in the clouds and it was not much more than a big "bump". However any time you pass into unusually attitudes it's time to keep at least one eye on the TC in addition to the AI. Keep little airplane in the TC level and the ball in the center. Low airspeed, get the nose down to the proper attitude. High airspeed, power off and *ease* the nose up. OTOH it seems that "inadvertent" flight into IMC is pretty hard on instrument rated pilots too. Still, we probably never hear about the ones who survive. Be it in IMC or under the hood the key is practice and personally I would prefer to the unusual attitudes with some one in the right seat who can see. statistician, nor a "****house lawyer" :~) ). statistics can mean most anything depending on how a study is conducted and presented. If you don't know the parameters for the study then the results don't mean a whole lot. I'd be intereted in seeing a report that sifts the data out more directly than trying to extrapolate multiple sources. And there are so many variables. Time in make and model, total time, time in the clouds, make and model of aircraft, pilot's attitude (which is almost impossible to get) Compare high performance retracts to fixed gear that are not high performance. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com snip |
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