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  #31  
Old September 28th 07, 01:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

FredGarvinMaleProstitute wrote in
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Mxsmanic wrote:
JA_MORAN writes:

what about backup systems
a Microwave point to point could work, how about different feeds from
different circuits? or a SAtellite dish...


Back-up systems can only work if they exist.


I explained the backup issue in a previous response. The FAA
"Had" microwave backup until the unqualified idiots decided
they did not need it and went single threaded with outside
contractors(Telco).

Current FAA Management is clueless about technical issues


Actually, it's you who are clueless about tech matters, but don't let me
stop you making an asshole out of yourself!

Not that anything could stop ya.

Bertie
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  #32  
Old September 28th 07, 02:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
you making an asshole out of yourself!



I think his moniker sez it all concerning this subject... d:-))


  #33  
Old September 28th 07, 02:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

"ManhattanMan" wrote in news:Vf7Li.95$pX5.25
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
you making an asshole out of yourself!



I think his moniker sez it all concerning this subject... d:-))




Which one? He's having a litle back patting party there al by hisself.

Bertie
  #34  
Old September 28th 07, 06:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

JA_MORAN wrote:
what about backup systems
a Microwave point to point could work, how about different feeds from
different circuits? or a SAtellite dish...



Microwave only has limited range, so you need to build a network of
repeaters/towers. And both microwave and satellite can be affected by
bad weather (heavy snow, heavy rain).
  #35  
Old September 28th 07, 07:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

true however on most areas there are tall structures, hills, or
moutnains where repeaters can be setup.

they said the failure was due to a phone circuit. all you would need to
do would be to microwave to a point up to 30 miles away where you can
then patch into an alternate circuit

the FAA already had a microwave network in place... if you drive by any
of the center facilities, you will see at least one microwave antenna

also most sectors have some military radar coverage. I know in Phoenix
thhere have been a few problems with center radar and the Luke Air force
Bace(KLUF) was able to assist.

JOHN


Nobody wrote:
JA_MORAN wrote:

what about backup systems
a Microwave point to point could work, how about different feeds from
different circuits? or a SAtellite dish...




Microwave only has limited range, so you need to build a network of
repeaters/towers. And both microwave and satellite can be affected by
bad weather (heavy snow, heavy rain).

  #36  
Old September 28th 07, 07:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

JA_MORAN wrote:
true however on most areas there are tall structures, hills, or
moutnains where repeaters can be setup.

they said the failure was due to a phone circuit. all you would need to
do would be to microwave to a point up to 30 miles away where you can
then patch into an alternate circuit

the FAA already had a microwave network in place... if you drive by any
of the center facilities, you will see at least one microwave antenna

also most sectors have some military radar coverage. I know in Phoenix
thhere have been a few problems with center radar and the Luke Air force
Bace(KLUF) was able to assist.

JOHN


Nobody wrote:
JA_MORAN wrote:

what about backup systems
a Microwave point to point could work, how about different feeds from
different circuits? or a SAtellite dish...




Microwave only has limited range, so you need to build a network of
repeaters/towers. And both microwave and satellite can be affected by
bad weather (heavy snow, heavy rain).


The microwave back-up in the FAA was called RCL(Radio
Communication Link)before the FAA canned it. The dip ****s
in FAA management decided to kiss the ass of big business
and go with phone companies. The hell with air safety just
kiss that contractor ass and **** away that tax payer money.
  #37  
Old September 28th 07, 08:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Judah
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

FredGarvinMaleProstitute wrote in news:uk6Li.234
:

I explained the backup issue in a previous response. The FAA
"Had" microwave backup until the unqualified idiots decided
they did not need it and went single threaded with outside
contractors(Telco).


Didn't they have cell phones? Didn't they use them?

What makes microwaves better than cell phones?
  #38  
Old September 28th 07, 09:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

Password wrote in
news
JA_MORAN wrote:
true however on most areas there are tall structures, hills, or
moutnains where repeaters can be setup.

they said the failure was due to a phone circuit. all you would need
to do would be to microwave to a point up to 30 miles away where you
can then patch into an alternate circuit

the FAA already had a microwave network in place... if you drive by
any of the center facilities, you will see at least one microwave
antenna

also most sectors have some military radar coverage. I know in
Phoenix thhere have been a few problems with center radar and the
Luke Air force Bace(KLUF) was able to assist.

JOHN


Nobody wrote:
JA_MORAN wrote:

what about backup systems
a Microwave point to point could work, how about different feeds
from different circuits? or a SAtellite dish...



Microwave only has limited range, so you need to build a network of
repeaters/towers. And both microwave and satellite can be affected
by bad weather (heavy snow, heavy rain).


The microwave back-up in the FAA was called RCL(Radio
Communication Link)before the FAA canned it. The dip ****s
in FAA management decided to kiss the ass of big business
and go with phone companies. The hell with air safety just
kiss that contractor ass and **** away that tax payer money.



So what?

You stil hve no idea what you are talking about.

Bertie
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Old September 28th 07, 09:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

In rec.aviation.piloting Judah wrote:
FredGarvinMaleProstitute wrote in news:uk6Li.234
:


I explained the backup issue in a previous response. The FAA
"Had" microwave backup until the unqualified idiots decided
they did not need it and went single threaded with outside
contractors(Telco).


Didn't they have cell phones? Didn't they use them?


What makes microwaves better than cell phones?


The phone lines carry more than voice.

--
Jim Pennino

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Old September 28th 07, 11:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

Judah wrote:
What makes microwaves better than cell phones?



The RadarRange in the control tower can also cook turkeys :-)
 




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