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Old September 26th 07, 04:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Mxsmanic
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

See

http://us.cnn.com/2007/US/09/25/memp...afu/index.html

Was it truly an accident? It sure happens at a convenient time for those who
want to fuel the argument that there's something wrong with ATC. However, the
incident could be used for both pro and con arguments, depending on how it is
spun, i.e., one could argue that "ATC lacks the resources it needs," or that
"ATC needs to be replaced by something new."
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Old September 26th 07, 06:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
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In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
See

http://us.cnn.com/2007/US/09/25/memp...afu/index.html

Was it truly an accident? It sure happens at a convenient time for those who
want to fuel the argument that there's something wrong with ATC. However, the
incident could be used for both pro and con arguments, depending on how it is
spun, i.e., one could argue that "ATC lacks the resources it needs," or that
"ATC needs to be replaced by something new."


One, it doesn't matter to you, since you don't fly.

Two, things like this happen. Wildfires in SoCal and Palmdale
come to mind. That's why there are LOAs in place with adjacent sectors
to handle things like this.

IF you do the research you say you do, you'd know and realize
this.

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Old September 26th 07, 08:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

See

http://us.cnn.com/2007/US/09/25/memp...afu/index.html

Was it truly an accident? It sure happens at a convenient time for
those who want to fuel the argument that there's something wrong with
ATC. However, the incident could be used for both pro and con
arguments, depending on how it is spun, i.e., one could argue that
"ATC lacks the resources it needs," or that "ATC needs to be replaced
by something new."


Doesn't matter to you since you don't fly and never will


Bertie
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Old September 26th 07, 11:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

Mxsmanic wrote:
See

http://us.cnn.com/2007/US/09/25/memp...afu/index.html

Was it truly an accident? It sure happens at a convenient time for those who
want to fuel the argument that there's something wrong with ATC. However, the
incident could be used for both pro and con arguments, depending on how it is
spun, i.e., one could argue that "ATC lacks the resources it needs," or that
"ATC needs to be replaced by something new."


Huh? Failures such as this happen ...

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Old September 26th 07, 12:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Denny
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ATC failed due to commercial phone lines going down, so we need to
replace ATC ????

How simply about replacing the part that failed with something more
robust..

I can see us spending 10 billion dollars for a whole new ATC structure
- that still depends on Ma Bell's 1912 phone lines...

denny


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Old September 26th 07, 01:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Craig Welch
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

Viperdoc wrote:

Hey Anthony, we get CNN here in the states- you don't need to re-post stuff
that's already on the news.


Do you suffer from the view that all readers of this newsgroup
are 'here in the states [sic]'?

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Old September 26th 07, 05:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Mxsmanic
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

One, it doesn't matter to you, since you don't fly.


True, but many people on these groups do fly.

Two, things like this happen. Wildfires in SoCal and Palmdale
come to mind. That's why there are LOAs in place with adjacent sectors
to handle things like this.


I don't think CNN bothered to mention that.

IF you do the research you say you do, you'd know and realize
this.


I'm not the one who controls or influences the money or the policy of U.S.
aviation. You might want to share your research with those who do.
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Old September 26th 07, 05:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Mxsmanic
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

Craig Welch writes:

Huh? Failures such as this happen ...


Sure, but you can spin failures many ways.
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Old September 26th 07, 05:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Mxsmanic
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

Viperdoc writes:

Hey Anthony, we get CNN here in the states- you don't need to re-post stuff
that's already on the news.


There are many people on USENET besides those in the (United) States.
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Old September 26th 07, 05:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air
Mxsmanic
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Default ATC failure in Memphis

Viperdoc writes:

Anthony (the OP) is an ex-pat American who lives in France. He is not a
pilot or physician, but likes to offer up pronouncements on a wide range of
topics, including breast feeding. A few months ago he asked if a Baron had
an ejection seat. Now, he is a self proclaimed expert.


An excellent example of an attempt at spin. Now apply that same principle to
the topic under discussion.
 




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