Bonanza crash caught on video

http://fox40.trb.com/

In an amazing coincidence, a Sacramento TV station was at Cameron Park
airport filming background for a story about the crash of a plane that
had departed earlier in the day and caught a second crash on video. Go
to the web site and click on "Cameron Park Plane Crash" on the right
side.

It sure looks like the pilot was taking off from a high-density
altitude airport with no flaps, downwind.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Good grief, I hate to see that kind of stuff, turns my stomach.

Guess I shouldn't follow links like this.

Might have caught some downdraft from the trees, too. - usual second
guesses.

Jay Honeck wrote:
http://fox40.trb.com/

In an amazing coincidence, a Sacramento TV station was at Cameron Park
airport filming background for a story about the crash of a plane that
had departed earlier in the day and caught a second crash on video. Go
to the web site and click on "Cameron Park Plane Crash" on the right
side.

It sure looks like the pilot was taking off from a high-density
altitude airport with no flaps, downwind.

Wow, that was ugly. It looked like he was accelerating pretty good when
he went past the camera, but just couldn't quite establish a climb. I
did hear the one witness mention it being a downwind takeoff. Another
witness mentioned an engine sputter, so it also sounds like it wasn't
leaned at all for the altitude. Very unfortunate.

Matt

Another witness mentioned an engine sputter

Whatever the cause of a crash, there's always someone who hears the
engine splutter...

On Aug 31, 7:40 pm, Mike Granby wrote:
Another witness mentioned an engine sputter

Whatever the cause of a crash, there's always someone who hears the
engine splutter...

All aircraft engines sputter, that's just the nature of how they work.
They don't sound like BMV engines.

"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

On Aug 31, 7:40 pm, Mike Granby wrote:
Another witness mentioned an engine sputter

Whatever the cause of a crash, there's always someone who hears the
engine splutter...

All aircraft engines sputter, that's just the nature of how they work.
They don't sound like BMV engines.

Is it possible the pilot decided to abort after he was airborne? The engine
sounded strong and the airplane came off fine at rotation, then it seems to
run out of steam. Or was that simply due to its climbing out of ground
effect?


--
Dan
T-182T at BFM

"Dan Luke" wrote

Is it possible the pilot decided to abort after he was airborne?
Surely not. There was not a place to land, anywhere. Plus, he did not push
the nose down, at all.

The engine sounded strong and the airplane came off fine at rotation, then
it seems to run out of steam. Or was that simply due to its climbing out
of ground effect?

That would be my guess. It also looked to me like he pulled the nose up, a
tiny bit more, and without the ground effect, that was all it took to get on
the back side of the power curve.

That in itself is a good lesson to be learned. Try to practice recognizing
the back side of the power curve, in slow flight.
--
Jim in NC

Dan Luke wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

On Aug 31, 7:40 pm, Mike Granby wrote:
Another witness mentioned an engine sputter
Whatever the cause of a crash, there's always someone who hears the
engine splutter...

All aircraft engines sputter, that's just the nature of how they work.
They don't sound like BMV engines.

Is it possible the pilot decided to abort after he was airborne? The engine
sounded strong and the airplane came off fine at rotation, then it seems to
run out of steam. Or was that simply due to its climbing out of ground
effect?

It definitely wasn't obvious from the vantage point of the camera.
Could have been wind shear, coming out of ground effect too soon, engine
trouble, etc.

Matt

Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Aug 31, 7:40 pm, Mike Granby wrote:
Another witness mentioned an engine sputter
Whatever the cause of a crash, there's always someone who hears the
engine splutter...

All aircraft engines sputter, that's just the nature of how they work.
They don't sound like BMV engines.


Bull. I can easily tell a well-running aircraft engine from one that
isn't running well.

Matt

On Sep 1, 8:34 am, Matt Whiting wrote:
Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Aug 31, 7:40 pm, Mike Granby wrote:
Another witness mentioned an engine sputter
Whatever the cause of a crash, there's always someone who hears the
engine splutter...

All aircraft engines sputter, that's just the nature of how they work.
They don't sound like BMV engines.

Bull. I can easily tell a well-running aircraft engine from one that
isn't running well.

So what? You've probably be near a running airplane engine. If you
think that the common layperson can tell the difference between a good
running airplane engine and bad running one than you should follow
Alice to Wonderland.

-Robert