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Old January 14th 08, 03:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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Default F-15 Breakup Animation & video

Video depictions of what happened when that longeron failed in-flight:

http://www.acc.af.mil/shared/media/d...080110-018.wmv

http://www.acc.af.mil/shared/media/d...080110-028.wmv

The sad truth is that our kids are flying around in planes that were
designed during the Nixon administration, and were built when Reagan was
president.

To put that in perspective, that would be like our fathers and grandfathers
flying Spads and Sopwith Camels against the Luftwaffe in 1943.

I hope this means accelerated funding and deployment of the F-22 and F-35,
but I fear otherwise.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old January 14th 08, 04:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Marco Leon[_4_]
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Default F-15 Breakup Animation & video

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:[email protected]_s22...
The sad truth is that our kids are flying around in planes that were
designed during the Nixon administration, and were built when Reagan was
president.

To put that in perspective, that would be like our fathers and
grandfathers flying Spads and Sopwith Camels against the Luftwaffe in
1943.

I hope this means accelerated funding and deployment of the F-22 and F-35,
but I fear otherwise.


Why would you fear otherwise? If the Air Force winds up grounding a large
enough number of F-15's, they may not have an option *but* to increase
production.

http://www.star-telegram.com/business/story/405748.html "F-22 rises as an
option after F-15 faults found"

Then again, I'm sure whoever getd into the White House next term will have
an impact on the outcome...

Marco


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Old January 14th 08, 05:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default F-15 Breakup Animation & video

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:[email protected]_s22:

Video depictions of what happened when that longeron failed in-flight:

http://www.acc.af.mil/shared/media/d...080110-018.wmv

http://www.acc.af.mil/shared/media/d...080110-028.wmv

The sad truth is that our kids are flying around in planes that were
designed during the Nixon administration, and were built when Reagan
was president.

To put that in perspective, that would be like our fathers and
grandfathers flying Spads and Sopwith Camels against the Luftwaffe in
1943.


No it wouldn't




Bertie
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Old January 14th 08, 05:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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Default F-15 Breakup Animation & video

I hope this means accelerated funding and deployment of the F-22 and
F-35, but I fear otherwise.


Why would you fear otherwise? If the Air Force winds up grounding a large
enough number of F-15's, they may not have an option *but* to increase
production.


Because the draw-down of our Air Force since the end of the Cold War has
been steep and continuous. Some are even suggesting that it be re-combined
with the army, since it has become prohibitively expensive to maintain it as
a separate force at its current size.

This type of precipitous disarmament happened after World War I, and as a
result we were woefully unprepared for what followed. Guys like Curtis
Lemay made sure that the same thing did not happen after World War II -- but
all the visionaries of that generation are dead, leaving a new generation --
apparently ignorant of history -- to repeat the mistakes of the past.

Sure, it's a different time, you might say, and we've got satellites to keep
an eye on things, now -- but IMHO maintaining a modern Air Force is cheap
insurance, and one of the few things that our Federal Government is actually
*supposed* to be doing with our tax dollars.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old January 14th 08, 05:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Slug
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Default F-15 Breakup Animation & video

Jay Honeck wrote:
Video depictions of what happened when that longeron failed in-flight:

http://www.acc.af.mil/shared/media/d...080110-018.wmv

http://www.acc.af.mil/shared/media/d...080110-028.wmv

The sad truth is that our kids are flying around in planes that were
designed during the Nixon administration, and were built when Reagan was
president.

To put that in perspective, that would be like our fathers and
grandfathers flying Spads and Sopwith Camels against the Luftwaffe in 1943.

I hope this means accelerated funding and deployment of the F-22 and
F-35, but I fear otherwise.


Don't you know Government cheese and hand-outs and illegal
immigrant free college tuition supersedes new airplanes?
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Old January 14th 08, 05:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default F-15 Breakup Animation & video

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:[email protected]_s22:

I hope this means accelerated funding and deployment of the F-22 and
F-35, but I fear otherwise.


Why would you fear otherwise? If the Air Force winds up grounding a
large enough number of F-15's, they may not have an option *but* to
increase production.


Because the draw-down of our Air Force since the end of the Cold War
has been steep and continuous. Some are even suggesting that it be
re-combined with the army, since it has become prohibitively expensive
to maintain it as a separate force at its current size.

This type of precipitous disarmament happened after World War I, and
as a result we were woefully unprepared for what followed.


Untrue.





a new generation -- apparently ignorant of history



And you right up there at the front...


Bertie
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Old January 14th 08, 05:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default F-15 Breakup Animation & video

Slug wrote in news
Jay Honeck wrote:
Video depictions of what happened when that longeron failed
in-flight:

http://www.acc.af.mil/shared/media/d...080110-018.wmv

http://www.acc.af.mil/shared/media/d...080110-028.wmv

The sad truth is that our kids are flying around in planes that were
designed during the Nixon administration, and were built when Reagan
was president.

To put that in perspective, that would be like our fathers and
grandfathers flying Spads and Sopwith Camels against the Luftwaffe in
1943.

I hope this means accelerated funding and deployment of the F-22 and
F-35, but I fear otherwise.


Don't you know Government cheese and hand-outs and illegal
immigrant free college tuition supersedes new airplanes?


Yeah, that cheese should be going into making new fighters, goddammit!


Bertie
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Old January 14th 08, 05:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll
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Default F-15 Breakup Animation & video


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:[email protected]_s22...

Sure, it's a different time, you might say, and we've got satellites to
keep an eye on things, now -- but IMHO maintaining a modern Air Force is
cheap insurance, and one of the few things that our Federal Government is
actually *supposed* to be doing with our tax dollars.


Actually, the Constitution does not give the federal government the power to
maintain an Air Force.


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Old January 14th 08, 05:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Darkwing
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Default F-15 Breakup Animation & video


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:[email protected]_s22...
Video depictions of what happened when that longeron failed in-flight:

http://www.acc.af.mil/shared/media/d...080110-018.wmv

http://www.acc.af.mil/shared/media/d...080110-028.wmv

The sad truth is that our kids are flying around in planes that were
designed during the Nixon administration, and were built when Reagan was
president.

To put that in perspective, that would be like our fathers and
grandfathers flying Spads and Sopwith Camels against the Luftwaffe in
1943.

I hope this means accelerated funding and deployment of the F-22 and F-35,
but I fear otherwise.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Jay you can't hug your children with Nuclear Arms. Kumbaya!



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Old January 14th 08, 06:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Marco Leon[_4_]
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Default F-15 Breakup Animation & video

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:[email protected]_s22...

Because the draw-down of our Air Force since the end of the Cold War has
been steep and continuous. Some are even suggesting that it be
re-combined with the army, since it has become prohibitively expensive to
maintain it as a separate force at its current size.

This type of precipitous disarmament happened after World War I, and as a
result we were woefully unprepared for what followed. Guys like Curtis
Lemay made sure that the same thing did not happen after World War II --
but all the visionaries of that generation are dead, leaving a new
generation -- apparently ignorant of history -- to repeat the mistakes of
the past.

Sure, it's a different time, you might say, and we've got satellites to
keep an eye on things, now -- but IMHO maintaining a modern Air Force is
cheap insurance, and one of the few things that our Federal Government is
actually *supposed* to be doing with our tax dollars.


Oh, I think it the Air Force *is* modern. I just think the mission has
changed Jay. The money is still there for the most part but is going to
other things. Yes, satellites are one area but others like the UAV/UCAV and
Airborne Laser are more targeted to what's expected in the future. I think
they are attempting to be more efficient. What I've been reading about the
F-22 tells me that one airframe can do the work of what normally took 4 or
5. Heck, it can even act as a mini AWACS for other last generation jets. The
F-22 and the F-35 are quite capable.

Take alook at some of these article Jay, you might feel better about our
situation. http://www.codeonemagazine.com/archives/index.html
Keep in mind the info they write about is not even classified so you can
imagine what they can really do.

Marco



 




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