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Old September 18th 04, 03:28 PM
Kevin Brooks
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"Tom S." wrote in message
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7E7 will offer airlines a new airframe (they can't fly the same old

ones
forever)

No ?


No. Aircraft have definite service lives. Surprised you did not know
that.


What's the service life of a DC-3?


Don't know--how many of them have you seen flying with major airlines of
late?

Brooks





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Old September 18th 04, 06:52 PM
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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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"Tom S." wrote in message
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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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7E7 will offer airlines a new airframe (they can't fly the same old

ones
forever)

No ?

No. Aircraft have definite service lives. Surprised you did not know
that.


What's the service life of a DC-3?


Don't know--how many of them have you seen flying with major airlines of
late?

Why would the number of major airlines be at all relevant?



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Old September 18th 04, 05:19 PM
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"Tom S." wrote in message
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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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7E7 will offer airlines a new airframe (they can't fly the same old

ones
forever)

No ?


No. Aircraft have definite service lives. Surprised you did not know
that.


What's the service life of a DC-3?



10,665 were built of which less than 400 remain in flyable condition

Nuff said.

Keith


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Old September 18th 04, 05:29 PM
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In rec.aviation.owning Keith Willshaw wrote:

"Tom S." wrote in message
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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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7E7 will offer airlines a new airframe (they can't fly the same old

ones
forever)

No ?

No. Aircraft have definite service lives. Surprised you did not know
that.


What's the service life of a DC-3?



10,665 were built of which less than 400 remain in flyable condition


Nuff said.


Keith


Does the 10,665 include the C-47 and Li-2?

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Old September 19th 04, 01:49 AM
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"Tom S." wrote


"Kevin Brooks" wrote
No. Aircraft have definite service lives. Surprised you did not know
that.



What's the service life of a DC-3?


Since all loads in a DC-3 are carried by high strength fittings
and not by "stressed skin", the CD-3 has no specified service
life as do the modern jetliners.
I recall seeing a TV interview with Mr. Douglas in which he explained
that by replacing the bushel basket of fittings that he had brought
with him, any DC-3 airframe could be made good as new.

Bob Moore
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Old September 18th 04, 01:30 PM
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In article ,
I tell you what--you want to start up a new low-cost airline here in the
states with 727's, be my guest---but don't be planning on getting many
financial backers.


I read somewhere (I vaguely recollect the NY Times Magazine, but could
be wrong on that) some time ago that 727's were favored by drug runners.
Huge cargo capacity, able to land and take off from dirt fields, and
cheap enough that if they need to abandon it someplace, it's no great
loss.
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Old September 20th 04, 12:01 PM
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Fuel efficiency ( cost per seat-mile ) is what it's about. This factor

is
skewed by amortised cost of old but serviceable a/c - like the 727s I

just
mentioend. Not efficient - but the lease purchase was paid off decades
back.


I tell you what--you want to start up a new low-cost airline here in the
states with 727's, be my guest---but don't be planning on getting many
financial backers.


Question - how efficient is a 727 re-engined with the RR Tay conversion?
These seem popular with the higher end of biz-jet operators.

I think someone on here, though may have been on TV, said that the
difference between cruise speeds on various airliners is to do with the
critical speed of the wing. Above this speed, the thrust required is much
more, so you use much more fuel. The 747 was designed for a faster
speed in this respect so has a higher cruise speed? I think the 727 was
quoted as being quite good at M 0.75 but not at 0.85? Something like
that?

Paul


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Old September 26th 04, 07:54 PM
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Kevin Brooks wrote:

7E7 will offer airlines a new airframe (they can't fly the same old ones
forever)


No ?


No. Aircraft have definite service lives.


Some helicopters don't.

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Old September 27th 04, 12:23 AM
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"Fritz" wrote in message
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Kevin Brooks wrote:

7E7 will offer airlines a new airframe (they can't fly the same old
ones
forever)

No ?


No. Aircraft have definite service lives.


Some helicopters don't.


Point to the modern passenger carrying aircraft that offers infinite cycles
and airframe hours.

Brooks


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Old September 18th 04, 05:52 AM
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Well, you
shouldn't let your personal experiences color you ideas about the US
economy. For example, it ooks like you missed the insourcing of high paying
that is also occurring. Not to mention the strong growth of the


Insourcing of high paying lobs? Surely you must be joking.
If good paying jobs are ever created in US,they are usually for the imported
talent not for Americans.

FYI in US:
38 % of Medical doctors are foreign (mostly Indian),also,
38 % percent of IBM employees ,
36 % of NASA employees,
34 % of Microsoft employees,
17 % of Intel employees,
14 % of Xerox employees are foreign .

This list goes on and on,expect these percentages to rise after elections as
whoever gets elected will increase H1B visas available to the foreigners hired
by US companies.

Thanks to Anglo minority that rule America,Americans have only two less than
perfect choices:
1)Either high paying jobs will go to other countries,or
2)Foreigners will come and take high paying jobs away.

In Anglo minority dominated US the image (facade) is everything.


 




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