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  #11  
Old July 25th 03, 02:03 AM
John Ward
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Hi Derek,

Ever since I was Dux of my school, and later studied Russian at
University for a couple more years, I've had a bit of an ear cocked towards
such a vast culture.

Things have sure progressed since the Cold War days, and because there
are so many of them, the pressure must always be on to come up with
something, just to be able to make your way through life, and hopefully do a
little better than the next bloke, so you can provide a little easier, or
indulge your interests more, or whatever. Similarities with China, parts of
Asia, the U.S.A.... where there are big populations?

The more National, Global, Universal your experiences/thinking get, the
more it all keeps you thinking to the best of your abilities.

I suppose for some, the hard part then becomes how to bring everyone
else along for the ride, but that's way beyond my dumb mind!!

It is interesting, though, how one's sense of perspective changes the
more you come to wrap your mind around (or at least, it should! ), and that
then should lead to an ever-changing appreciation and understanding of the
differing degrees to which were not all in the same boat.

Sorry to you, and anyone else, if this is dribbling on, but you do seem
to have a bit of a different , broader, perspective on things, or perhaps
many do, but you just express it more, and your advice always seems to be
spot-on, unless one has nitpicking mode on occassionally.

Those Russkies sure can be inscrutable, they sure do lack wealth at the
moment, and there sure are plenty of them still, despite the split up.

Regards,
John
"Derek Wildstar" wrote in message
news:Lp_Ta.137894$ye4.95979@sccrnsc01...

"John Ward" wrote in message
u...
Hi Derek,

That's an interesting site.

One of Katy Pluta's recent posts re graphics cards contained a link

to
a Russian site, and the testing/comparisons were extremely well done

(well,
I thought so, anyway).

Some of those guys must really know their onions over there.

Regards,
John



To paint with a broad brush, the Russians are somewhat unscrutable

geniuses
when it comes to engineering and technology, not to mention aeronautical
engineering, they built a Space Shuttle as well, recall. However, there
aren't enough rubles in Lenin's Tomb to get me up in that death trap.

Recent
sad events notwithstanding.

Perhaps it's due to the lack of wealth and need for amassing of wealth in
their culture that enables them to explore avenues of science that have
little economic merit, it explains the whiling away the hours playing

chess
against super computers and writing computer virii.





  #12  
Old July 25th 03, 02:08 AM
John Ward
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Just saw my post posted - My mistake, I was only Dux of Russian, not Dux of
the whole school, and now I can't even send a simple post correctly.
Apparently I didn't learn much! :-))

Regards,
John
"John Ward" wrote in message
...
Hi Derek,

Ever since I was Dux of my school, and later studied Russian at
University for a couple more years, I've had a bit of an ear cocked

towards
such a vast culture.

Things have sure progressed since the Cold War days, and because there
are so many of them, the pressure must always be on to come up with
something, just to be able to make your way through life, and hopefully do

a
little better than the next bloke, so you can provide a little easier, or
indulge your interests more, or whatever. Similarities with China, parts

of
Asia, the U.S.A.... where there are big populations?

The more National, Global, Universal your experiences/thinking get,

the
more it all keeps you thinking to the best of your abilities.

I suppose for some, the hard part then becomes how to bring everyone
else along for the ride, but that's way beyond my dumb mind!!

It is interesting, though, how one's sense of perspective changes the
more you come to wrap your mind around (or at least, it should! ), and

that
then should lead to an ever-changing appreciation and understanding of the
differing degrees to which were not all in the same boat.

Sorry to you, and anyone else, if this is dribbling on, but you do

seem
to have a bit of a different , broader, perspective on things, or perhaps
many do, but you just express it more, and your advice always seems to be
spot-on, unless one has nitpicking mode on occassionally.

Those Russkies sure can be inscrutable, they sure do lack wealth at

the
moment, and there sure are plenty of them still, despite the split up.

Regards,
John
"Derek Wildstar" wrote in message
news:Lp_Ta.137894$ye4.95979@sccrnsc01...

"John Ward" wrote in message
u...
Hi Derek,

That's an interesting site.

One of Katy Pluta's recent posts re graphics cards contained a

link
to
a Russian site, and the testing/comparisons were extremely well done

(well,
I thought so, anyway).

Some of those guys must really know their onions over there.

Regards,
John



To paint with a broad brush, the Russians are somewhat unscrutable

geniuses
when it comes to engineering and technology, not to mention aeronautical
engineering, they built a Space Shuttle as well, recall. However, there
aren't enough rubles in Lenin's Tomb to get me up in that death trap.

Recent
sad events notwithstanding.

Perhaps it's due to the lack of wealth and need for amassing of wealth

in
their culture that enables them to explore avenues of science that have
little economic merit, it explains the whiling away the hours playing

chess
against super computers and writing computer virii.







  #13  
Old July 25th 03, 09:31 AM
quilljar
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Pardon my asking, but I am only a poor Englishman with a small brain, what
is a Dux exactly? Is it the same as a dunce?


"John Ward" wrote in message
...
Just saw my post posted - My mistake, I was only Dux of Russian, not Dux

of
the whole school, and now I can't even send a simple post correctly.
Apparently I didn't learn much! :-))

Regards,
John
"John Ward" wrote in message
...
Hi Derek,

Ever since I was Dux of my school, and later studied Russian at
University for a couple more years, I've had a bit of an ear cocked

towards
such a vast culture.

Things have sure progressed since the Cold War days, and because

there
are so many of them, the pressure must always be on to come up with
something, just to be able to make your way through life, and hopefully

do
a
little better than the next bloke, so you can provide a little easier,

or
indulge your interests more, or whatever. Similarities with China, parts

of
Asia, the U.S.A.... where there are big populations?

The more National, Global, Universal your experiences/thinking get,

the
more it all keeps you thinking to the best of your abilities.

I suppose for some, the hard part then becomes how to bring everyone
else along for the ride, but that's way beyond my dumb mind!!

It is interesting, though, how one's sense of perspective changes

the
more you come to wrap your mind around (or at least, it should! ), and

that
then should lead to an ever-changing appreciation and understanding of

the
differing degrees to which were not all in the same boat.

Sorry to you, and anyone else, if this is dribbling on, but you do

seem
to have a bit of a different , broader, perspective on things, or

perhaps
many do, but you just express it more, and your advice always seems to

be
spot-on, unless one has nitpicking mode on occassionally.

Those Russkies sure can be inscrutable, they sure do lack wealth at

the
moment, and there sure are plenty of them still, despite the split up.

Regards,
John
"Derek Wildstar" wrote in message
news:Lp_Ta.137894$ye4.95979@sccrnsc01...

"John Ward" wrote in message
u...
Hi Derek,

That's an interesting site.

One of Katy Pluta's recent posts re graphics cards contained a

link
to
a Russian site, and the testing/comparisons were extremely well done
(well,
I thought so, anyway).

Some of those guys must really know their onions over there.

Regards,
John


To paint with a broad brush, the Russians are somewhat unscrutable

geniuses
when it comes to engineering and technology, not to mention

aeronautical
engineering, they built a Space Shuttle as well, recall. However,

there
aren't enough rubles in Lenin's Tomb to get me up in that death trap.

Recent
sad events notwithstanding.

Perhaps it's due to the lack of wealth and need for amassing of wealth

in
their culture that enables them to explore avenues of science that

have
little economic merit, it explains the whiling away the hours playing

chess
against super computers and writing computer virii.









  #14  
Old July 25th 03, 09:49 AM
John Ward
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Silver Tongue,

In my case yes, but normally it just means top of the school, so you get
a book or something, in front of the rest of the school. I used to translate
Russian geological papers for De Beers while at school, so maybe that helped
me. Somehow related to the Argyll Diamond Field over in Western Australia.

These days, in terms of learning about flying, most things seem to be
Double Dutch. :-))

Regards,
John
"quilljar" wrote in message
...
Pardon my asking, but I am only a poor Englishman with a small brain, what
is a Dux exactly? Is it the same as a dunce?


"John Ward" wrote in message
...
Just saw my post posted - My mistake, I was only Dux of Russian, not Dux

of
the whole school, and now I can't even send a simple post correctly.
Apparently I didn't learn much! :-))

Regards,
John
"John Ward" wrote in message
...
Hi Derek,

Ever since I was Dux of my school, and later studied Russian at
University for a couple more years, I've had a bit of an ear cocked

towards
such a vast culture.

Things have sure progressed since the Cold War days, and because

there
are so many of them, the pressure must always be on to come up with
something, just to be able to make your way through life, and

hopefully
do
a
little better than the next bloke, so you can provide a little easier,

or
indulge your interests more, or whatever. Similarities with China,

parts
of
Asia, the U.S.A.... where there are big populations?

The more National, Global, Universal your experiences/thinking

get,
the
more it all keeps you thinking to the best of your abilities.

I suppose for some, the hard part then becomes how to bring

everyone
else along for the ride, but that's way beyond my dumb mind!!

It is interesting, though, how one's sense of perspective changes

the
more you come to wrap your mind around (or at least, it should! ), and

that
then should lead to an ever-changing appreciation and understanding of

the
differing degrees to which were not all in the same boat.

Sorry to you, and anyone else, if this is dribbling on, but you do

seem
to have a bit of a different , broader, perspective on things, or

perhaps
many do, but you just express it more, and your advice always seems to

be
spot-on, unless one has nitpicking mode on occassionally.

Those Russkies sure can be inscrutable, they sure do lack wealth

at
the
moment, and there sure are plenty of them still, despite the split up.

Regards,
John
"Derek Wildstar" wrote in message
news:Lp_Ta.137894$ye4.95979@sccrnsc01...

"John Ward" wrote in message
u...
Hi Derek,

That's an interesting site.

One of Katy Pluta's recent posts re graphics cards contained

a
link
to
a Russian site, and the testing/comparisons were extremely well

done
(well,
I thought so, anyway).

Some of those guys must really know their onions over there.

Regards,
John


To paint with a broad brush, the Russians are somewhat unscrutable
geniuses
when it comes to engineering and technology, not to mention

aeronautical
engineering, they built a Space Shuttle as well, recall. However,

there
aren't enough rubles in Lenin's Tomb to get me up in that death

trap.
Recent
sad events notwithstanding.

Perhaps it's due to the lack of wealth and need for amassing of

wealth
in
their culture that enables them to explore avenues of science that

have
little economic merit, it explains the whiling away the hours

playing
chess
against super computers and writing computer virii.











  #15  
Old July 25th 03, 10:02 AM
quilljar
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Default

Ah like El Duce then?
Good on yer sport! I now feel that small I could sit on a zac and dangle me
legs!


"John Ward" wrote in message
u...
Silver Tongue,

In my case yes, but normally it just means top of the school, so you

get
a book or something, in front of the rest of the school. I used to

translate
Russian geological papers for De Beers while at school, so maybe that

helped
me. Somehow related to the Argyll Diamond Field over in Western Australia.

These days, in terms of learning about flying, most things seem to be
Double Dutch. :-))

Regards,
John
"quilljar" wrote in message
...
Pardon my asking, but I am only a poor Englishman with a small brain,

what
is a Dux exactly? Is it the same as a dunce?


"John Ward" wrote in message
...
Just saw my post posted - My mistake, I was only Dux of Russian, not

Dux
of
the whole school, and now I can't even send a simple post correctly.
Apparently I didn't learn much! :-))

Regards,
John
"John Ward" wrote in message
...
Hi Derek,

Ever since I was Dux of my school, and later studied Russian at
University for a couple more years, I've had a bit of an ear cocked
towards
such a vast culture.

Things have sure progressed since the Cold War days, and because

there
are so many of them, the pressure must always be on to come up with
something, just to be able to make your way through life, and

hopefully
do
a
little better than the next bloke, so you can provide a little

easier,
or
indulge your interests more, or whatever. Similarities with China,

parts
of
Asia, the U.S.A.... where there are big populations?

The more National, Global, Universal your experiences/thinking

get,
the
more it all keeps you thinking to the best of your abilities.

I suppose for some, the hard part then becomes how to bring

everyone
else along for the ride, but that's way beyond my dumb mind!!

It is interesting, though, how one's sense of perspective

changes
the
more you come to wrap your mind around (or at least, it should! ),

and
that
then should lead to an ever-changing appreciation and understanding

of
the
differing degrees to which were not all in the same boat.

Sorry to you, and anyone else, if this is dribbling on, but you

do
seem
to have a bit of a different , broader, perspective on things, or

perhaps
many do, but you just express it more, and your advice always seems

to
be
spot-on, unless one has nitpicking mode on occassionally.

Those Russkies sure can be inscrutable, they sure do lack wealth

at
the
moment, and there sure are plenty of them still, despite the split

up.

Regards,
John
"Derek Wildstar" wrote in message
news:Lp_Ta.137894$ye4.95979@sccrnsc01...

"John Ward" wrote in message
u...
Hi Derek,

That's an interesting site.

One of Katy Pluta's recent posts re graphics cards

contained
a
link
to
a Russian site, and the testing/comparisons were extremely well

done
(well,
I thought so, anyway).

Some of those guys must really know their onions over there.

Regards,
John


To paint with a broad brush, the Russians are somewhat unscrutable
geniuses
when it comes to engineering and technology, not to mention

aeronautical
engineering, they built a Space Shuttle as well, recall. However,

there
aren't enough rubles in Lenin's Tomb to get me up in that death

trap.
Recent
sad events notwithstanding.

Perhaps it's due to the lack of wealth and need for amassing of

wealth
in
their culture that enables them to explore avenues of science that

have
little economic merit, it explains the whiling away the hours

playing
chess
against super computers and writing computer virii.













  #16  
Old July 25th 03, 10:47 AM
John Ward
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Silver Tongue,

Isn't El Duce dead, thank Christ! Or was that Ill Duce?(sorry Fr Bill,
it won't happen again if I can help it, I swear! ).

ROTFL - haven't heard that one before, can I borrow it?

Whatever you decide to do, any chance of you telling us all more about
it? Same for all you other blokes with your stories/experiences - I'm in no
way shape or form putting the pressure on you Silver Tongue - I just reckon
all of us benefit from accumulated wisdom, particularly cf some of the
garbage values that are promulgated these days.

I'm off to watch the Aussies flog the Kiwis at Rugby League, and if by
some miracle we lose, surely we'll get 'em tomorrow night in the Rugby
Union? Those Black Devils! :-))) Couldn't handle the pressure from DonButts
if we lose both of them, but that won't happen?

Regards,
John


"quilljar" wrote in message
...
Ah like El Duce then?
Good on yer sport! I now feel that small I could sit on a zac and dangle

me
legs!


"John Ward" wrote in message
u...
Silver Tongue,

In my case yes, but normally it just means top of the school, so you

get
a book or something, in front of the rest of the school. I used to

translate
Russian geological papers for De Beers while at school, so maybe that

helped
me. Somehow related to the Argyll Diamond Field over in Western

Australia.

These days, in terms of learning about flying, most things seem to

be
Double Dutch. :-))

Regards,
John
"quilljar" wrote in message
...
Pardon my asking, but I am only a poor Englishman with a small brain,

what
is a Dux exactly? Is it the same as a dunce?


"John Ward" wrote in message
...
Just saw my post posted - My mistake, I was only Dux of Russian, not

Dux
of
the whole school, and now I can't even send a simple post correctly.
Apparently I didn't learn much! :-))

Regards,
John
"John Ward" wrote in message
...
Hi Derek,

Ever since I was Dux of my school, and later studied Russian

at
University for a couple more years, I've had a bit of an ear

cocked
towards
such a vast culture.

Things have sure progressed since the Cold War days, and

because
there
are so many of them, the pressure must always be on to come up

with
something, just to be able to make your way through life, and

hopefully
do
a
little better than the next bloke, so you can provide a little

easier,
or
indulge your interests more, or whatever. Similarities with China,

parts
of
Asia, the U.S.A.... where there are big populations?

The more National, Global, Universal your experiences/thinking

get,
the
more it all keeps you thinking to the best of your abilities.

I suppose for some, the hard part then becomes how to bring

everyone
else along for the ride, but that's way beyond my dumb mind!!

It is interesting, though, how one's sense of perspective

changes
the
more you come to wrap your mind around (or at least, it should! ),

and
that
then should lead to an ever-changing appreciation and

understanding
of
the
differing degrees to which were not all in the same boat.

Sorry to you, and anyone else, if this is dribbling on, but

you
do
seem
to have a bit of a different , broader, perspective on things, or
perhaps
many do, but you just express it more, and your advice always

seems
to
be
spot-on, unless one has nitpicking mode on occassionally.

Those Russkies sure can be inscrutable, they sure do lack

wealth
at
the
moment, and there sure are plenty of them still, despite the split

up.

Regards,
John
"Derek Wildstar" wrote in message
news:Lp_Ta.137894$ye4.95979@sccrnsc01...

"John Ward" wrote in message
u...
Hi Derek,

That's an interesting site.

One of Katy Pluta's recent posts re graphics cards

contained
a
link
to
a Russian site, and the testing/comparisons were extremely

well
done
(well,
I thought so, anyway).

Some of those guys must really know their onions over

there.

Regards,
John


To paint with a broad brush, the Russians are somewhat

unscrutable
geniuses
when it comes to engineering and technology, not to mention
aeronautical
engineering, they built a Space Shuttle as well, recall.

However,
there
aren't enough rubles in Lenin's Tomb to get me up in that death

trap.
Recent
sad events notwithstanding.

Perhaps it's due to the lack of wealth and need for amassing of

wealth
in
their culture that enables them to explore avenues of science

that
have
little economic merit, it explains the whiling away the hours

playing
chess
against super computers and writing computer virii.















  #17  
Old July 25th 03, 04:35 PM
Don Parker
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Hey, I'll buy a round for the house on that note!!
Sometime in the 80's my wife and I were on vacation down under, first stop
NZ. While walking down the street in Auckland, saw a big sign in a travel
agents window "German, French, and Aussie spoken fluently!". Got a big
laugh out of it, but then several weeks later in rural Australia found out
they weren't kidding!!! Almost needed an interpreter several times! No
problem in urban centers, but the outback speaks a different lanuage;
however, it is quite similar to English (;-))... Absolutely loved every
minute down there! Thank the sky gods for frequent flier programs.........
Cheers'n beers.. (ONE round!)
Don

"Derek Wildstar" wrote in message
newsObUa.127454$OZ2.25010@rwcrnsc54...

John

I really wish I could understand a word either of you are saying. No

matter,
I think all our upside-down friends are infinitely charming, regardless of
their indecipherable speech.






  #18  
Old July 25th 03, 11:21 PM
David
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In article , John Ward
writes

Those Russkies sure can be inscrutable, they sure do lack wealth at the
moment, and there sure are plenty of them still, despite the split up.


Not all them. One Russian, said to have around 2 billion dollars has
just come to England and purchased the Chelsea Soccer Club. I think it
was mentioned that he also owns a personal 767.

There are about 160 million of them at the moment - a lot less than the
USA population.
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  #19  
Old July 27th 03, 12:39 AM
John Ward
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Hi David,

Who knows, with any certainty, how wealth is maintained, created, or
distributed there these days? I certainly don't, I just try to stay a bit
informed, from all the various bits and pieces that can be seen/read.

Most of the normal population seem to be scratching a fair bit though,
these days, and 160 million is still a big population, by Aussie' standards
anyway! :-)

Regards,
John
"David" wrote in message
...
In article , John Ward
writes

Those Russkies sure can be inscrutable, they sure do lack wealth at

the
moment, and there sure are plenty of them still, despite the split up.


Not all them. One Russian, said to have around 2 billion dollars has
just come to England and purchased the Chelsea Soccer Club. I think it
was mentioned that he also owns a personal 767.

There are about 160 million of them at the moment - a lot less than the
USA population.
--
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David Francis E-Mail reply to
-----------------------------------------------------------



  #20  
Old July 28th 03, 10:28 PM
David
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Default

Hi John,

Who knows, with any certainty, how wealth is maintained, created, or
distributed there these days? I certainly don't, I just try to stay a bit
informed, from all the various bits and pieces that can be seen/read.

Indeed. Some wealth gathered seems out of all proportion. I think the
source of that comparatively young Russian's wealth is obscure.

Most of the normal population seem to be scratching a fair bit though,
these days, and 160 million is still a big population, by Aussie' standards
anyway! :-)


Yes. I have lived in England all my life but I still am getting
claustrophobic here. Nearly 50 million people in England alone with
almost another 10 million on Scotland , Wales and Northern Ireland.

I think England is full up, others don't agree. Our trips to the USA
showed me that I really liked wide open spaces. I have never got to
Australia though, sad to say.

Regards

David
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