Close Encounters Of The Third Kind

Where'd the planes come from that were shown at the beginning of the
movie? Where are they now?

And for a question not based on reality, why wasn't the desert winds
blowing them around? The aliens didn't leave them tied down or chocked.

Where'd the planes come from that were shown at the beginning of the
movie? Where are they now?

And for a question not based on reality, why wasn't the desert winds
blowing them around? The aliens didn't leave them tied down or chocked.

Those were Navy TBM Avenger torpedo bombers that were supposed to represent the
famous lost squadron of 5 TBMs that crashed in 1945 in the supposed Bermuda
Triangle. The popular misconception is that the aircraft flew into some kind
of "disturbance" and disappeared. The reality is that the flight leader became
lost and disoriented and the aircraft ran out of gas at night in a storm.

TBMs were used for many years as firebombers in the west and for certain kindes
of crop spraying as well. Many now survive as warbirds and museum pieces.

TBMs easily weigh 10,000 pounds empty and more than 17,000 full so it would
take pretty hefty wind to blow them around.

John Dupre'

Hi John,

I actually meant along the lines of who provided them for the movie,
as in Planes of Fame provided for the Pearl Harbor movie. Thanks! Mark

JDupre5762 wrote:

Where'd the planes come from that were shown at the beginning of the
movie? Where are they now?

And for a question not based on reality, why wasn't the desert winds
blowing them around? The aliens didn't leave them tied down or chocked.



Those were Navy TBM Avenger torpedo bombers that were supposed to represent the
famous lost squadron of 5 TBMs that crashed in 1945 in the supposed Bermuda
Triangle. The popular misconception is that the aircraft flew into some kind
of "disturbance" and disappeared. The reality is that the flight leader became
lost and disoriented and the aircraft ran out of gas at night in a storm.

TBMs were used for many years as firebombers in the west and for certain kindes
of crop spraying as well. Many now survive as warbirds and museum pieces.

TBMs easily weigh 10,000 pounds empty and more than 17,000 full so it would
take pretty hefty wind to blow them around.

John Dupre'

#82, the one that was started in the movie came from the CAF. It is IIRC now
with a CAF wing in Colorado.
Matt Gunsch,
A&P,IA,Private Pilot
Riding member of the
2003 world champion drill team
Arizona Precision Motorcycle Drill Team
GWRRA,NRA,GOA

(JDupre5762) wrote in message ...
Where'd the planes come from that were shown at the beginning of the
movie? Where are they now?

And for a question not based on reality, why wasn't the desert winds
blowing them around? The aliens didn't leave them tied down or chocked.

Those were Navy TBM Avenger torpedo bombers that were supposed to represent the
famous lost squadron of 5 TBMs that crashed in 1945 in the supposed Bermuda
Triangle. The popular misconception is that the aircraft flew into some kind
of "disturbance" and disappeared. The reality is that the flight leader became
lost and disoriented and the aircraft ran out of gas at night in a storm.


The lost squadron was "Flight 19" and the circumstances surrounding
their disappearance has never been explained despite the above "simple
explanation". None of the aircraft nor any sign of survival gear have
ever been found. The flight leader didn't just get lost, the entire
flight lost all bearing on where they were and could not establish a
way back to base. The sky was reported as distorted, not making sense
as well as time being lost.
The above posts claims they crashed in the Triangle but they have
never been found. Some excitement was caused years back when other TBM
aircraft were discovered in the area but they were NOT Flight 19.
For more information read the book "The Disappearance of Flight 19"
(1980) by Larry Kusche (ISBN: 0060124776).
Best place to get it from: www.bookfinder.com

Rob

"Mark and Kim Smith" wrote in message
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Where'd the planes come from that were shown at the beginning of the
movie? Where are they now?

And for a question not based on reality, why wasn't the desert winds
blowing them around? The aliens didn't leave them tied down or chocked.

I didn't see the movie but a director once told me there's movies and
there's real life.

Were they MILITARY aircraft?


Tex

Tex Houston wrote:
"Mark and Kim Smith" wrote in message
...
Where'd the planes come from that were shown at the beginning of the
movie? Where are they now?

And for a question not based on reality, why wasn't the desert winds
blowing them around? The aliens didn't leave them tied down or chocked.

I didn't see the movie but a director once told me there's movies and
there's real life.

Were they MILITARY aircraft?

Yes, Tex, they were. Avenger torpedo bombers, representing the 5 missing
TBMs of "Flight 19" (though no sign of a Martin flying boat, which also
went "missing" while searching for the missing TBMs.). A classic
"Bermuda Triangle" moment, being blamed on aliens.

-Marc
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Marc Reeve
actual email address after removal of 4s & spaces is
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"robert arndt" wrote in message
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(JDupre5762) wrote in message
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Where'd the planes come from that were shown at the beginning of the
movie? Where are they now?

And for a question not based on reality, why wasn't the desert winds
blowing them around? The aliens didn't leave them tied down or
chocked.

Those were Navy TBM Avenger torpedo bombers that were supposed to
represent the
famous lost squadron of 5 TBMs that crashed in 1945 in the supposed
Bermuda
Triangle. The popular misconception is that the aircraft flew into some
kind
of "disturbance" and disappeared. The reality is that the flight leader
became
lost and disoriented and the aircraft ran out of gas at night in a
storm.


The lost squadron was "Flight 19" and the circumstances surrounding
their disappearance has never been explained despite the above "simple
explanation". None of the aircraft nor any sign of survival gear have
ever been found.

Right, because its hard to find a bunch of relatively small aircraft in a
large area of ocean after the fact.

The flight leader didn't just get lost, the entire
flight lost all bearing on where they were and could not establish a
way back to base.

It was a training flight. Only the flight leader had any real navigation
experience, and the other pilots relied on his direction. If he screwed up
they were screwed.

The sky was reported as distorted, not making sense
as well as time being lost.

No, books written 3 decades later made that claim.

tim gueguen 101867

At least in the movie it was blamed on aliens. Real life, I guess we
won't know until they are found. Where the heck is that Titanic /
Yorktown guy!!

Marc Reeve wrote:

Tex Houston wrote:


"Mark and Kim Smith" wrote in message
...


Where'd the planes come from that were shown at the beginning of the
movie? Where are they now?

And for a question not based on reality, why wasn't the desert winds
blowing them around? The aliens didn't leave them tied down or chocked.


I didn't see the movie but a director once told me there's movies and
there's real life.

Were they MILITARY aircraft?



Yes, Tex, they were. Avenger torpedo bombers, representing the 5 missing
TBMs of "Flight 19" (though no sign of a Martin flying boat, which also
went "missing" while searching for the missing TBMs.). A classic
"Bermuda Triangle" moment, being blamed on aliens.

-Marc

(robert arndt) wrote:

The sky was reported as distorted, not making sense
as well as time being lost.

snort Riiiight!!
--

-Gord.