New Word 'SOARING'

Jim Vincent wrote:
I saw the typo on boyfriend (buyfriend) and was amused. Soaring is
essentially
a home grown magazine that does a great job considering the resources
it has.
I suppose we could add another editor, but that would increase our
dues. I'd
rather keep the occasional typo. Good thing it was not bi-friend.

What I don't get is the Too Late To Classify section. How come there
are
always repeat ads in there? Also, how can anyone write an article
about
actually enjoying a flight in a 2-33? I thought the mantra was
glass, glass,
glass.

Jim Vincent
N483SZ
illspam

Sorry, but I thought my sarcasm was showing by mentioning the mantra of glass,
glass, glass. Personally, I always questioned the value of transitioning to a
G-103 fleet instead of the good old 2-33s. It has substantially raised our
membership cost and consequently driven some members out.

I am not an elitist slob, but most of the management and their cronies refer to
anything not glass as POS. It is almost humorous to hear a student with less
than ten flights refer to a 1-26 as a POS.

When I started flying, I compared the cost of renting a 2-33 to the cost of
renting a G103. The decision was a no brainer. Learn to fly in a 2-33 and
then do 3-4 flights to transition to the Grob. No big deal. At my club, the
thinking is one has to unlearn the bad habits developed in a 2-33.

The Great news is....I quit PGC! Time to have fun!




actually enjoying a flight in a 2-33? I thought the mantra was
glass, glass,
glass.



Hey Jim- You are sounding like an elitist snob. You fly in an older,
well established, and relatively wealthy club. Many others, likely the
majority, don't. Lots of people do enjoy flying 2-33's or 1-26's or
whatever.
The mantra should be to enjoy whatever you fly and encourage the other
person to do the same. It does not matter what you fly, but rather that
you fly.
UH



Jim Vincent
N483SZ
illspam

Jim Vincent wrote:
I saw the typo on boyfriend (buyfriend) and was amused. Soaring is
essentially
a home grown magazine that does a great job considering the resources
it has.
I suppose we could add another editor, but that would increase our
dues. I'd
rather keep the occasional typo. Good thing it was not bi-friend.

What I don't get is the Too Late To Classify section. How come there
are
always repeat ads in there? Also, how can anyone write an article
about
actually enjoying a flight in a 2-33? I thought the mantra was
glass, glass,
glass.

Jim Vincent
N483SZ
illspam

Ray Lovinggood wrote:
'The author's buyfriend at moment of touchdown.'

How right that word can be, for either a 'boyfriend'
or a husband.

Especially one who is buysexual ...
CV

At 05:00 03 February 2005, Tony Verhulst wrote:

Why Worry About Grammar??? (Read the Following Quickly
.)

I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd
waht I was rdanieg.

Tell my fifth grade English teacher it isn't important.
Scariest woman
I ever knew.

Mrs Hall went to visit an author friend in the hospital.
He was
complaining about a miss-spelled word in a magazine
article he wrote.
Mrs Hall said 'what's the big deal?. The author replied
'mrs Hell, it
makes a hall of a difference'. Miss-spelled words in
a magazine may not
be important, but it is sloppy, IMHO.

Tony V.


Right!

I appreciate the work that the staff at SSA does -
very much.

We have a creeping disease in our society that puts
the bottom line ahead of every consideration of quality,
and it affects every profession and every thing we
do. The hurry up to reduce overhead forces neglect,
carelessness, sloppy work. I have spent 30 years in
my house finding and correcting shortcuts the builder
took to save a few moments. His saving $2.50 has cost
me $30.00 in many cases.

Language is as important as arithmetic. If you wouldn't
tolerate incorrect math, why dismiss sloppy language
as unimportant. It reveals that the person either
does not care for precision, or else is so rushed that
he/she has no time to go back and clean up their work.
We all make typos; how many go back and read through
their posts before sending them out.

I'm a curmudgeon; I judge people who use poor grammar
and syntax as persons who can't or don't think critically;
maybe they can, but are just slovenly. Shirtsleeve
English doesn't work in print; it causes confusion.

I worked in a university. I observed that foreign
students coming to this country spoke with very precise,
articulate English and put our local students to shame
with their precision of thought and expression. They
even ask for help in correcting their English, and
they have thanked me when I pointed out errors, and
begged for more comments. It is as easy to learn it
correctly as it is to learn it incorrectly. We stopped
teaching grammar back in the 60s in favor of getting
students to 'express themselves.' We are paying for
that now.

I served as a consultant to a legal firm in evaluating
a collection of intellectual property in a divorce
settlement. The correspondence from the young lawyer
got all the 'boiler plate' down pat, but it was painful
trying to sort out his meaning in the text surrounding
it. We required two or three letters to sort out what
he really wanted precisely from me. Spell checkers
create as much confusion as they solve.

I'm off my soapbox, and I promise not to get back up
on it again; I do appreciate the editors and writers
at SSA and I do not attack them. They need more help.

"creeping disease, precision, university, consultant, articulate,
boiler plate",= ___________ Fill in the blank with your favorite
adjective.

All y'all need to go flying. Geeeesh!!!

Nyal Williams wrote:

I appreciate the work that the staff at SSA does -
very much.

We have a creeping disease in our society that puts
the bottom line ahead of every consideration of quality,
and it affects every profession and every thing we
do. The hurry up to reduce overhead forces neglect,
carelessness, sloppy work. I have spent 30 years in
my house finding and correcting shortcuts the builder
took to save a few moments. His saving $2.50 has cost
me $30.00 in many cases.

Language is as important as arithmetic. If you wouldn't
tolerate incorrect math, why dismiss sloppy language
as unimportant. It reveals that the person either
does not care for precision, or else is so rushed that
he/she has no time to go back and clean up their work.
We all make typos; how many go back and read through
their posts before sending them out.

I'm a curmudgeon; I judge people who use poor grammar
and syntax as persons who can't or don't think critically;
maybe they can, but are just slovenly. Shirtsleeve
English doesn't work in print; it causes confusion.

I worked in a university. I observed that foreign
students coming to this country spoke with very precise,
articulate English and put our local students to shame
with their precision of thought and expression. They
even ask for help in correcting their English, and
they have thanked me when I pointed out errors, and
begged for more comments. It is as easy to learn it
correctly as it is to learn it incorrectly. We stopped
teaching grammar back in the 60s in favor of getting
students to 'express themselves.' We are paying for
that now.

I served as a consultant to a legal firm in evaluating
a collection of intellectual property in a divorce
settlement. The correspondence from the young lawyer
got all the 'boiler plate' down pat, but it was painful
trying to sort out his meaning in the text surrounding
it. We required two or three letters to sort out what
he really wanted precisely from me. Spell checkers
create as much confusion as they solve.

I'm off my soapbox, and I promise not to get back up
on it again; I do appreciate the editors and writers
at SSA and I do not attack them. They need more help.

At 19:00 03 February 2005, Snoop wrote:
'creeping disease, precision, university, consultant,
articulate,
boiler plate',= ___________ Fill in the blank with
your favorite
adjective.

All y'all need to go flying. Geeeesh!!!

I believe the correct workd is you'uns. ;-)

I'd sure love to go flying; maybe in another month.

Nyal Williams wrote:
At 19:00 03 February 2005, Snoop wrote:

'creeping disease, precision, university, consultant,
articulate,
boiler plate',= ___________ Fill in the blank with
your favorite
adjective.

All y'all need to go flying. Geeeesh!!!


I believe the correct workd is you'uns. ;-)

I'd sure love to go flying; maybe in another month.



Surely is "all'YAll"

Whatever happened to praising all the good things that the magazine has to
offer. I have been in many jobs, that no one wants where the people are
doing a lot of good. No one ever bothers to say "nice job" but let something
not please them once, you will be the first one they call. No wonder we
can't find good people for these jobs anymore. We all need to think of how
we would feel if this kind of behavior is aimed at us!!!!!!

BG


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Mark Zivley wrote:
Not to beat them up too much, but the picture on the cover was in a
Soaring calendar a few years back. How about some new stuff?

Ray Lovinggood wrote:
I just received my Feb 2005 issue of 'SOARING' today
and noticed a new word I'll have to add to my vocabulary.

It can be found on page 22, in the caption next to
the photo of the 2-33. The caption reads,

'The author's buyfriend at moment of touchdown.'

How right that word can be, for either a 'boyfriend'
or a husband.

I also noticed the M&H ad seems a bit dated. But then
again, Ground Hog day is tomorrow, so maybe it is appropriate.

Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
Buyfriend for my wife


Comment:
As a group, you guys are a bunch of snots!
I pretty can't take the "Let's take our shots this week" mentality.
It is true that there are some errors in Soaring magazine- occasionally
even a couple real clangers, by by and large, I think it is greatly
improved and enjoy it.
I suspect you have no idea how hurtful some of these comments are. If
you do, more the shame.
An important employee of SSA resigned this week, in part because of
this kind of nastiness and the abuse received over the phone from some
members.
I'd be interested in how many of you do jobs that are reviewed by 12000
critics.
UH

On 3 Feb 2005 16:39:19 GMT, Nyal Williams
wrote:

At 05:00 03 February 2005, Tony Verhulst wrote:

Why Worry About Grammar??? (Read the Following Quickly
.)

I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd
waht I was rdanieg.

Tell my fifth grade English teacher it isn't important.
Scariest woman
I ever knew.

Mrs Hall went to visit an author friend in the hospital.
He was
complaining about a miss-spelled word in a magazine
article he wrote.
Mrs Hall said 'what's the big deal?. The author replied
'mrs Hell, it
makes a hall of a difference'. Miss-spelled words in
a magazine may not
be important, but it is sloppy, IMHO.

Tony V.


Right!

I appreciate the work that the staff at SSA does -
very much.

We have a creeping disease in our society that puts
the bottom line ahead of every consideration of quality,
and it affects every profession and every thing we
do. The hurry up to reduce overhead forces neglect,
carelessness, sloppy work. I have spent 30 years in
my house finding and correcting shortcuts the builder
took to save a few moments. His saving $2.50 has cost
me $30.00 in many cases.

Language is as important as arithmetic. If you wouldn't
tolerate incorrect math, why dismiss sloppy language
as unimportant. It reveals that the person either
does not care for precision, or else is so rushed that
he/she has no time to go back and clean up their work.
We all make typos; how many go back and read through
their posts before sending them out.

I'm a curmudgeon; I judge people who use poor grammar
and syntax as persons who can't or don't think critically;
maybe they can, but are just slovenly. Shirtsleeve
English doesn't work in print; it causes confusion.

I worked in a university. I observed that foreign
students coming to this country spoke with very precise,
articulate English and put our local students to shame
with their precision of thought and expression. They
even ask for help in correcting their English, and
they have thanked me when I pointed out errors, and
begged for more comments. It is as easy to learn it
correctly as it is to learn it incorrectly. We stopped
teaching grammar back in the 60s in favor of getting
students to 'express themselves.' We are paying for
that now.

I served as a consultant to a legal firm in evaluating
a collection of intellectual property in a divorce
settlement. The correspondence from the young lawyer
got all the 'boiler plate' down pat, but it was painful
trying to sort out his meaning in the text surrounding
it. We required two or three letters to sort out what
he really wanted precisely from me. Spell checkers
create as much confusion as they solve.

I'm off my soapbox, and I promise not to get back up
on it again; I do appreciate the editors and writers
at SSA and I do not attack them. They need more help.

Here is a tip: when posting about someone's bad grammar or spelling,
keep it short. That way there is a smaller chance that you will make
mistakes yourself. G Unfortunately, your post is too long and
contains a few errors (at least 3). So - have your corrected post on
my desk first thing in the morning.

"Judge not, that ye be not judged." Matthew 7:1


Klein's 3rd law: "Any posting correcting the spelling or grammer of another
will inevitably contain errors of it's own."