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Buddy Holly crash
This contains an angle on the story that I'd never heard befo that
Holly's pilot radioed another pilot that he was in trouble just before the crash. http://www.thevillagesdailysun.com/a...ews/news01.txt -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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Buddy Holly crash
Dan Luke wrote:
This contains an angle on the story that I'd never heard befo that Holly's pilot radioed another pilot that he was in trouble just before the crash. http://www.thevillagesdailysun.com/a...ews/news01.txt That is a weird article. Sounds like what we read in Southern California every time someone prangs into the mountains around here during a winter storm. "Oh, he was such a good pilot!" (translated, "Now, if only that nasty mountain hadn't gotten in his way!") |
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wrote: Dan Luke wrote: This contains an angle on the story that I'd never heard befo that Holly's pilot radioed another pilot that he was in trouble just before the crash. http://www.thevillagesdailysun.com/a...ews/news01.txt That is a weird article. Sounds like what we read in Southern California every time someone prangs into the mountains around here during a winter storm. "Oh, he was such a good pilot!" (translated, "Now, if only that nasty mountain hadn't gotten in his way!") True. Have you ever read of anyone's saying: "He was a careless guy who was bound to crash someday?" If one goes by the media testimony of acquaintences, only good pilots crash. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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Buddy Holly crash
Absent and real evidence, what would any pilot in this newsgroup
suggest as the acause of the crash if he read a 700 total time non instrument rated pilot took off at night, flew into IMC and icing, and crashed? Sure, there are exceptions, but come on, guys and gals. 90 degree bank at impact does not suggest the airplane was under control, does it? |
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Buddy Holly crash
Dan Luke wrote:
Have you ever read of anyone's saying: "He was a careless guy who was bound to crash someday?" Actually, yes. A very experienced pilot was killed and his passenger almost killed when doing something the whole aviation community had seen him repeatedly do, and many of his peers had counseled him. Very sad that it happened, of course ... but yes, people predicted it before it happened and were saying *exactly* what you quoted above after. |
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Buddy Holly crash
Dan Luke wrote:
wrote: Sounds like what we read in Southern California every time someone prangs into the mountains around here during a winter storm. "Oh, he was such a good pilot!" (translated, "Now, if only that nasty mountain hadn't gotten in his way!") True. Have you ever read of anyone's saying: "He was a careless guy who was bound to crash someday?" No. But, I heard it a lot in my airport bum days. |
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Buddy Holly crash
wrote: Have you ever read of anyone's saying: "He was a careless guy who was bound to crash someday?" Actually, yes. A very experienced pilot was killed and his passenger almost killed when doing something the whole aviation community had seen him repeatedly do, and many of his peers had counseled him. Very sad that it happened, of course ... but yes, people predicted it before it happened and were saying *exactly* what you quoted above after. Yes, but we were talking about what we see quoted in the media. A recent fatal crash around here had very similar circumstances to the ones you describe, but the "We told him so!" comments never appeared on TV. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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Buddy Holly crash
Dan Luke wrote:
wrote: Sounds like what we read in Southern California every time someone prangs into the mountains around here during a winter storm. "Oh, he was such a good pilot!" (translated, "Now, if only that nasty mountain hadn't gotten in his way!") True. Have you ever read of anyone's saying: "He was a careless guy who was bound to crash someday?" Yes, as a matter of fact. Several USAF Officers had complained about "Colonel Bud Holland's" flying for a long time until the fatal crash of a B-52 at Fairchild AFB in 1994. http://www.crm-devel.org/resources/p...e/darkblue.htm JPH |
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Buddy Holly crash
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 07:11:49 -0600, "Dan Luke"
wrote: This contains an angle on the story that I'd never heard befo that Holly's pilot radioed another pilot that he was in trouble just before the crash. http://www.thevillagesdailysun.com/a...ews/news01.txt Given a non-instrument rated pilot flying night IMC during conditions conducive to icing (in a non-ice certified a/c), I would say that he was in trouble *long* before the crash. Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA) |
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Buddy Holly crash
wrote in message news:ZQrFf.21693$sA3.18220@fed1read02... Dan Luke wrote: wrote: Sounds like what we read in Southern California every time someone prangs into the mountains around here during a winter storm. "Oh, he was such a good pilot!" (translated, "Now, if only that nasty mountain hadn't gotten in his way!") True. Have you ever read of anyone's saying: "He was a careless guy who was bound to crash someday?" No. But, I heard it a lot in my airport bum days. We call them 'matter of timers.' |
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