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Old March 2nd 05, 11:52 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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An intersection defined by the 015 radial off the Phoenix VOR and 22 DME.


That's not an intersection, that's a DME fix. An intersection is a point
defined by any combination of courses, radials, or bearings of two or more
navigational aids.


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Old March 2nd 05, 11:55 PM
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"Newps" wrote in message
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I should have specified the navaid you are currently navigating off of.
For example direct FUBAR is not legal for the controller if FUBAR is 300
miles away.


Yes it is. Direct to any point is legal in a radar environment and the only
way to get direct to a non-navaid fix is in a radar environment.


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Old March 2nd 05, 11:58 PM
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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Hmmm, looks like I sit corrected (at least as far as paper charts go...)

Golden Eagle flight planning software shows it as:

015r (027* true) 22nm (approx) from the Phoenix VOR (PXR)

Just about in the center of the NE quadrant of the Phoenix Class B
airspace where there is an almost square chunk of 7000-10000'.

But you're right, it isn't on either the Phoenix Sectional or the Phoenix
TAC.


I don't think you'll find any DME fix on a sectional or a TAC.


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Old March 2nd 05, 11:59 PM
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"Newps" wrote in message
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I should have specified the navaid you are currently navigating off of.
For example direct FUBAR is not legal for the controller if FUBAR is 300
miles away.


Service volume is applicable only to navaids.



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Old March 3rd 05, 12:54 AM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
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Hmmm, looks like I sit corrected (at least as far as paper charts go...)

Golden Eagle flight planning software shows it as:

015r (027* true) 22nm (approx) from the Phoenix VOR (PXR)

Just about in the center of the NE quadrant of the Phoenix Class B
airspace where there is an almost square chunk of 7000-10000'.

But you're right, it isn't on either the Phoenix Sectional or the Phoenix
TAC.


I don't think you'll find any DME fix on a sectional or a TAC.


Thanks for the clarification...

Jay B


  #136  
Old March 3rd 05, 03:13 AM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in message
news:FNqVd.92478$Yu.70103@fed1read01...

Hmmm, looks like I sit corrected (at least as far as paper charts go...)

Golden Eagle flight planning software shows it as:

015r (027* true) 22nm (approx) from the Phoenix VOR (PXR)

Just about in the center of the NE quadrant of the Phoenix Class B
airspace where there is an almost square chunk of 7000-10000'.

But you're right, it isn't on either the Phoenix Sectional or the Phoenix
TAC.


I don't think you'll find any DME fix on a sectional or a TAC.


So is it on ANY chart? If so, which? I looked at all the STARs, but not all the IAPs nor Departures...

Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
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Old March 3rd 05, 04:02 AM
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"John Clonts" wrote in message
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So is it on ANY chart? If so, which? I looked at all the STARs, but not
all the IAPs nor Departures...


It must be charted somewhere, somebody provided the radial and distance.
It's odd that it's not in the Location Identifiers order.


 




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