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Route Planning
Jose wrote:
But it was mostly dismissed with a , "you never get the route you filed for anyway in the Northeast." Which has been my experience and thus my question. That is my experience also; I'm in the northeast too. Jose Well, yes and no. If you fly a route a couple of times you can pretty well predict what routing you are going to get. If you then file that, you'll more often than not either get cleared as filed, or a full route clearance that turns out to be exactly what you filed (for example, if I file PVD ORW V16 ENO at 6000', they'll as often as not give me a full route clearance that comes out PVD ORW V16 JFK V16 ENO or something similar, but it is the route and altitude I filed, just with an extra waypoint added, or sometimes with a V number added where I had two VORs in a row in my file, or an alternate V number where two victor airways overlap (V1 and V16 for example). |
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On Mar 4, 10:00 pm, Ray Andraka wrote:
Jose wrote: But it was mostly dismissed with a , "you never get the route you filed for anyway in the Northeast." Which has been my experience and thus my question. That is my experience also; I'm in the northeast too. Jose Well, yes and no. If you fly a route a couple of times you can pretty well predict what routing you are going to get. If you then file that, you'll more often than not either get cleared as filed, or a full route clearance that turns out to be exactly what you filed (for example, if I file PVD ORW V16 ENO at 6000', they'll as often as not give me a full route clearance that comes out PVD ORW V16 JFK V16 ENO or something similar, but it is the route and altitude I filed, just with an extra waypoint added, or sometimes with a V number added where I had two VORs in a row in my file, or an alternate V number where two victor airways overlap (V1 and V16 for example). One way to see the commonly assigned routes ahead of time (shown to me by my CFII) is to use fltplan.com. This web site will show you the recently assigned routes for the origin/destination airports you specify. If you use it to file your flight plan, you can also see what ATC has assigned you about 30 minutes *before* you get in the plane and fire the engine up. I copy it down and every time I have called up and gotten my clearance, that's what I got. At the flight school I go to (Panorama at HPN) , they have worked with ATC (via the airport's aviation association) to get copies of all the preferred and TEC routes to /from the airport in hardcopy form. But if you use fltplan.com, you dont need to have this - its all in their databases. regards, Jack |
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On Mar 6, 4:04 pm, wrote:
But if you use fltplan.com, you dont need to have this - its all in their databases. Interesting. I thought that the plan you see is the filed plan delivered from the FAA computers to the flight tracking web sites. Another example: www.flightaware.com Hover the mouse over the status field. It will appear some 30 minutes *after* you file the plan. ak. |
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On Mar 6, 8:07 pm, wrote:
On Mar 6, 4:04 pm, wrote: But if you use fltplan.com, you dont need to have this - its all in their databases. Interesting. I thought that the plan you see is the filed plan delivered from the FAA computers to the flight tracking web sites. Another example: www.flightaware.com Hover the mouse over the status field. It will appear some 30 minutes *after* you file the plan. ak. You see both . You can see what recent routes other users got for the same origin/destination pair *before* you file, and then you can see what you actually got from ATC after you file. If there is a preferred route for the pair, it will tell you that as well. thanks for the tip about flightware. |
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