AnywhereWx vs. AirGator NavAirWx

Thanks to all who replied to my in-flight weather questions.

I think that I've narrowed my selection down to a PDA solution using the
iPaq 4700, along with packages for XM weather an moving map from either
Control Vision (AnywhereWx) or AirGator (NavAirWx).

Detailed information on the web sites of both companies is a little
sketchy, and the photos are unclear, but the photos appear to show a
slightly more impressive software display from AirGator's NavAirWx than
from AnywhereWx / Map.

I have been advised that AnywhereMap's "Cones of Safety" feature is
valuable, but I am trying to place a priority on the weather display and
easy of use. Does AirGator have a better system for weather?



Thanks,
JKG

There's a guy on the CPA board who ran the software on a tablet and an
ipaq 4705. For this software the tablet killed the ipaq. It took a
full 10 seconds to zoom in one level on the ipaq, the tablet does it
immediately. Generally speaking the software runs very slow on the PDA.

Jonathan Goodish wrote:

Thanks to all who replied to my in-flight weather questions.

I think that I've narrowed my selection down to a PDA solution using the
iPaq 4700, along with packages for XM weather an moving map from either
Control Vision (AnywhereWx) or AirGator (NavAirWx).

Detailed information on the web sites of both companies is a little
sketchy, and the photos are unclear, but the photos appear to show a
slightly more impressive software display from AirGator's NavAirWx than
from AnywhereWx / Map.

I have been advised that AnywhereMap's "Cones of Safety" feature is
valuable, but I am trying to place a priority on the weather display and
easy of use. Does AirGator have a better system for weather?



Thanks,
JKG

Newps wrote:

There's a guy on the CPA board who ran the software on a tablet and an
ipaq 4705.Â*Â*ForÂ*thisÂ*softwareÂ*theÂ*tabletÂ*killed *theÂ*ipaq.Â*Â*ItÂ*tookÂ*a
full 10 seconds to zoom in one level on the ipaq, the tablet does it
immediately.Â*Â*GenerallyÂ*speakingÂ*theÂ*software Â*runsÂ*veryÂ*slowÂ*onÂ*theÂ*PDA.

Which of the two softwares?

- Andrew

Andrew Gideon wrote:
Newps wrote:


There's a guy on the CPA board who ran the software on a tablet and an
ipaq 4705. For this software the tablet killed the ipaq. It took a
full 10 seconds to zoom in one level on the ipaq, the tablet does it
immediately. Generally speaking the software runs very slow on the PDA.


Which of the two softwares?

He has both but was commenting on the Wx.

"Newps" wrote in message ...


Andrew Gideon wrote:
Newps wrote:


There's a guy on the CPA board who ran the software on a tablet and an
ipaq 4705. For this software the tablet killed the ipaq. It took a
full 10 seconds to zoom in one level on the ipaq, the tablet does it
immediately. Generally speaking the software runs very slow on the PDA.


Which of the two softwares?

He has both but was commenting on the Wx.

ControlVision AnyWhereWx, or AirGator NavAirWx?

In article ,
Newps wrote:

There's a guy on the CPA board who ran the software on a tablet and an
ipaq 4705. For this software the tablet killed the ipaq. It took a
full 10 seconds to zoom in one level on the ipaq, the tablet does it
immediately. Generally speaking the software runs very slow on the PDA.


It shouldn't surprise anyone that a TabletPC is more capable and much
faster than a PDA. Generally speaking, though, folks seem to speak
fairly highly about the speed of the iPaq 4705, though I haven't heard
anyone claim that it's comparable to a TabletPC.

The issue with the Tablet is space. I have a Cherokee and I fear that
the Tablet will simply be too big with me (6' 3", 200lbs) and my much
smaller wife in the airplane at the same time.

The other issue is that I really don't have any other justified need for
a TabletPC... this device will pretty much be a one-trick pony for me,
and even the iPaq is pricey for just that function.



JKG

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:09:00 -0400, Jonathan Goodish
wrote:

In article ,
Newps wrote:

There's a guy on the CPA board who ran the software on a tablet and an
ipaq 4705. For this software the tablet killed the ipaq. It took a
full 10 seconds to zoom in one level on the ipaq, the tablet does it
immediately. Generally speaking the software runs very slow on the PDA.


It shouldn't surprise anyone that a TabletPC is more capable and much
faster than a PDA. Generally speaking, though, folks seem to speak
fairly highly about the speed of the iPaq 4705, though I haven't heard
anyone claim that it's comparable to a TabletPC.


The Tablet PC is also the only one with a display coming close to
being large enough. On a rough ride I don't want a tiny display like
a PDA.

The issue with the Tablet is space. I have a Cherokee and I fear that
the Tablet will simply be too big with me (6' 3", 200lbs) and my much
smaller wife in the airplane at the same time.

Unless the tablet is a lot bigger than I remember it shouldn't be a
problem. I'm flying a Debonair which like the Bo has a roomy cabin
and very little lap space due to that massive cross bar for the dual
yoke. I have to be careful with the size of who ever is in the right
seat and the yoke can easily hit their legs going left or right and
that is without pulling it back which makes it even worse. I want a
display that can give me charts, approach and enroute, weather,
lightening, and moving map.

I currently use a 295 GPS which has a map display I consider just
barely adequate, but mounting it on the cross bar (I do have a Bo
specific mount) is a tight fit. I'd rather mount a tablet on the
yoke.


The other issue is that I really don't have any other justified need for
a TabletPC... this device will pretty much be a one-trick pony for me,

Nor do I, but I consider having weather, lightening, and charts worth
the cost.. It's still a whale of a lot cheaper than the equivalent
panel mount.

OTOH if I get to the panel of the G-III any time soon I'll probably go
with the dual Blue Mountain set up. BUT I will not purchase the panel
*stuff* until the last minute as the technology is changing so fast.
Currently I find that a good reason for going with portable, non
certified displays which cost far less.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
and even the iPaq is pricey for just that function.



JKG

In article ,
Roger wrote:
It shouldn't surprise anyone that a TabletPC is more capable and much
faster than a PDA. Generally speaking, though, folks seem to speak
fairly highly about the speed of the iPaq 4705, though I haven't heard
anyone claim that it's comparable to a TabletPC.


The Tablet PC is also the only one with a display coming close to
being large enough. On a rough ride I don't want a tiny display like
a PDA.


I guess it depends on what your priorities are, because both have
drawbacks. Both CV and AirGator have large-button modes where you can
easily navigate with your fingers rather than a stylus. I can easily
take the PDA off of the yoke if I need to, but fumbling with the Tablet
would be a challenge. With the daylight-readable Tablets that I've seen
(Fujitsu and Motion), there is no way that I could mount them on my
Cherokee yoke--way too big.

Sony has the U50/U70 series, which are Tablets with a much smaller (5" I
think) screen. They seem like the ideal compromise between power,
screen size, and practicality. The only problem is, they cost as much
as the other TabletPC options, and I'm not sure what I would do with a
Tablet that only has a 5" screen outside of the cockpit.

I finally decided to try the PDA route. I played around with both the
CV product and the AirGator product on the iPaq 4705 over the weekend,
and the screen is small, but adequate, at 4". AnywhereMap is much more
feature filled than the AirGator product, but it's also slower on the
iPaq. I have no idea whether a high-speed memory card would help the
situation.



JKG

I have used AnywhereWx on an Ipaq 2215 for some time now. I can't imagine
flying IFR without it. There have been some issues with the XM Weather unit
forcing activation and apparently they have been pushing out firmware
updates to try and correct that. As to which system is easier to use I
suspect that this is like asking which flight planning software is best. I
occasionaly download and run the NavAir software and find it to be more
difficult to use. I'm sure that a lot of that is related to the fact that
I've used AnywhereMap for so long. Unfortunately CV has so far refused to
provide a demo version of their software. As to the display being better on
the NavAir that seems to be the general consensus when it comes to terrain
depiction. I don't think that will be an impact on the weather because the
granularity from XM is the same for both products. CV is supposedly going to
have support for VGA display modes soon.


"Jonathan Goodish" wrote in message
...
Thanks to all who replied to my in-flight weather questions.

I think that I've narrowed my selection down to a PDA solution using the
iPaq 4700, along with packages for XM weather an moving map from either
Control Vision (AnywhereWx) or AirGator (NavAirWx).

Detailed information on the web sites of both companies is a little
sketchy, and the photos are unclear, but the photos appear to show a
slightly more impressive software display from AirGator's NavAirWx than
from AnywhereWx / Map.

I have been advised that AnywhereMap's "Cones of Safety" feature is
valuable, but I am trying to place a priority on the weather display and
easy of use. Does AirGator have a better system for weather?



Thanks,
JKG

Rich Badaracco wrote:

As to which system is easier to use I
suspect that this is like asking which flight planning software is best.

What about in turbulance? How do you enter data on the palmtop while
bouncing?

- Andrew