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GW Bu$h's Torture Chambers and Rape rooms ...!
"The Todal" wrote in message ...
"Bystander" wrote in message ... "= Vox Populi ©" wrote in message (snipped): Six U.S. troops charged with Iraq torture I have seen the photos and they are appalling. The treatment of prisoners is utterly indefensible. At least America is dealing with it, and has admitted it. Many countries that use torture would never dream of allowing these reports. Well, perhaps it would be more accurate to say: now that it's in the public domain the PR people in the White House and the Pentagon can see that it is indefensible and they are duly blaming it all on renegade troops or (better still) outside contractors. Meanwhile, all the other torture will not be admitted until it has been discovered. This incident was being investigated before it came out in the news. The first news reports I saw of this (I think CBS was the network that "broke" the story) said that dicipline was already being handed out to those directly involved and to several officers, including a general, in the responsible command. Compare this to some "regimes" that would give the perps medals for doing crap like this. |
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You'd think by now, folks from the "Americas Funniest Home Videos" generation
would understand that there are some times you really should just leave the camera in the bag... I agree though - this doesn't reflect on the President directly, but you can be damn sure he knows what kind of repercussions are going to happen. Those US soldiers in the photos may as well go jump off a cliff, because every grandstanding politician from here to India is going to be using it as an excuse to appear on tv, denouncing the unforgiveable crime of showing us these guy's furry asses. Yuck. |
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"Krztalizer" wrote in message ... You'd think by now, folks from the "Americas Funniest Home Videos" generation would understand that there are some times you really should just leave the camera in the bag... I agree though - this doesn't reflect on the President directly, but you can be damn sure he knows what kind of repercussions are going to happen. Those US soldiers in the photos may as well go jump off a cliff, because every grandstanding politician from here to India is going to be using it as an excuse to appear on tv, denouncing the unforgiveable crime of showing us these guy's furry asses. Yuck. For a change, I completely agree with one of the President's public statements. The Americans responsible for those photographs who indulged themselves for their own pleasure apparently don't even have a clue as to how many additional American lives their fun and games are going to cost us down the road. It was a disgusting performance by a bunch of brainless jerks responsible for the health and well-being of Iraqi prisoners. If they're military people, they deserve to be courts-martialed, and if they're contract employees, they ought to be terminated and abandoned where they stand to find their own ways out of Iraq. If the job isn't tough enough, it's pretty sad that some of our enemies turn out to be our own people. George Z. |
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"Krztalizer" wrote in message ... I agree though - this doesn't reflect on the President directly, but you can be damn sure he knows what kind of repercussions are going to happen. I think they should be hauled before the Joint Chiefs, told "do you realise this footage could loose us the war?" then have the photos sown to their skins before being air-dropped naked into Falluja. Si |
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"Curtis CCR" wrote in message om... "The Todal" wrote in message ... "Bystander" wrote in message ... "= Vox Populi ©" wrote in message (snipped): Six U.S. troops charged with Iraq torture I have seen the photos and they are appalling. The treatment of prisoners is utterly indefensible. At least America is dealing with it, and has admitted it. Many countries that use torture would never dream of allowing these reports. Well, perhaps it would be more accurate to say: now that it's in the public domain the PR people in the White House and the Pentagon can see that it is indefensible and they are duly blaming it all on renegade troops or (better still) outside contractors. Meanwhile, all the other torture will not be admitted until it has been discovered. This incident was being investigated before it came out in the news. The first news reports I saw of this (I think CBS was the network that "broke" the story) said that dicipline was already being handed out to those directly involved and to several officers, including a general, in the responsible command. Compare this to some "regimes" that would give the perps medals for doing crap like this. Yes indeed. There are always going to be some people who think they can get away with such nonsense. Unlike many other countries, the US does not condone or support such actions, and punishes the people involved. |
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"Yardpilot" wrote in message news:3_Bkc.1303$_41.52280@attbi_s02... "Curtis CCR" wrote in message om... "The Todal" wrote in message ... "Bystander" wrote in message ... "= Vox Populi ©" wrote in message (snipped): Six U.S. troops charged with Iraq torture I have seen the photos and they are appalling. The treatment of prisoners is utterly indefensible. At least America is dealing with it, and has admitted it. Many countries that use torture would never dream of allowing these reports. Well, perhaps it would be more accurate to say: now that it's in the public domain the PR people in the White House and the Pentagon can see that it is indefensible and they are duly blaming it all on renegade troops or (better still) outside contractors. Meanwhile, all the other torture will not be admitted until it has been discovered. This incident was being investigated before it came out in the news. The first news reports I saw of this (I think CBS was the network that "broke" the story) said that dicipline was already being handed out to those directly involved and to several officers, including a general, in the responsible command. Compare this to some "regimes" that would give the perps medals for doing crap like this. Yes indeed. There are always going to be some people who think they can get away with such nonsense. Unlike many other countries, the US does not condone or support such actions, and punishes the people involved. Where are the videos of Americans cheering in the streets over what happened, like the supporters ofd the "insurgents" when they hung the burned bodies of our dead from bridges? There are none because we are not cheering. -*MORT*- |
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On Sat, 01 May 2004 00:14:56 GMT, "Yardpilot"
wrote: Yes indeed. There are always going to be some people who think they can get away with such nonsense. Unlike many other countries, the US does not condone or support such actions, and punishes the people involved. Correction needed.... America has been routinely transferring suspects to other countries to be tortured. A Canadian Muslim recently went through this. |
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"Pooched" wrote in message ... (snip) **** off, Kraut. Regards, PLMerite -- "If you rub it in both at home and abroad that you are ready for instant war... and intend to be first in and hit your enemy in the belly and kick him when he is down and boil your prisoners in oil (if you take any)... and torture his women and children, then people will keep clear of you." Vice Admiral Sir John Fisher, Royal Navy, 1898. |
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On Sat, 01 May 2004 01:46:10 GMT, "PLMerite"
wrote: "Pooched" wrote in message .. . (snip) **** off, Kraut. Regards, PLMerite If you'd like to live in country where criticising the gov't isn't allowed, there are plenty to choose from. =) Love, Pooched. |
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