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In article om,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote: The "no seat" rule is just there to make the airlines happy because It's a little more sophisticated than that. Airline seat backs are not as rigid as auto seats. The problem with the earlier safety seats was that they would not withstand a rear impact and would fold in half, crushing the child. I don't see how the design of the airline seat makes holding the child in your lap easier. We're not talking about child seats in this part of the thread, only why the FAA allows you to hold a child. The OP inquired about Canadian requirements for child safety seats. He noted that the US had changed requirements. I provided the reason for the requirements change. Ten years ago, I commuted for a year between Ohio and Puerto Rico with a 3 year old and a five year old. I ALWAYS purchased separate seats and brought along the child safety seats for my children. The flight crews (Delta and USAir) were always very helpful, carrying the two seats while I carried the children and carryon from the plane to the terminal. |
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The OP inquired about Canadian requirements for child safety seats.
He noted that the US had changed requirements. I provided the reason for the requirements change. Maybe my reader was messed up. It showed your response as under my comment on the "no seat" rule, not under the OP. -Robert |
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On Tue, 02 May 2006 06:48:30 -0700, Robert M. Gary wrote:
The "no seat" rule is just there to make the airlines happy because they can't sell a full fare ticket for an infant (they can try but won't get a lot of takers). Perhaps that's why US airlines don't bother to carry the little "double belt" do-dad that actually makes carrying a child in one's arms not a completely risky act. Luftansa always seems to have them. Of course, Luftansa also has those mini-cribs. - Andrew |
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Of course, Luftansa also has those mini-cribs.
And hot towels ! -Robert (holder of Luftansa frequent flyer card) |
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No headset appeard it would work for an infant (especially when their
age is in small numbers of weeks) Eventually I modified earmuffs to fit (and not fold) and integrated 2" memory foam into the muffs to seal around/in the ear. Mike Ross Richardson wrote: I have always strapped my DoT approved child seat in the back of the Cessna 172F. I take the holding strap and go over the seat and lock it to where the seat belts are connected to the floor. My seat belts make the connection right behind the seat. Very difficult to release the seat belt to remove the child seat. I fly my grandchildren in it until they out grew it. Now is use booster seats so they can see out. Ross P.S. Don't forget hearing protection. I made some adapters for my adult headsets that worked just fine and the grandkids never were bothered about wearing them. Ross Andrew Sarangan wrote: We are considering a flight from the U.S. to Canada with our one-year old. I am a bit confused by the FAR's regarding child seats. On the one hand, it says that the child may be simply held by an adult, but then it says if you use a child seat it must be approved for aircraft use. Common sense would dictate that any child seat is better than nothing. But the FARs seem to say that no seat is better than a car seat. Anyone have experience with this? How do the rules differ in Canada? |
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The very small head would be a problem. My grandchildren started flying
when they were two or three and my little adapters to adult headsets worked fine. And, i was lucky that they did not want to pull them off or play with them. I did have my grandson almost chew the cord into. Caught him in time. Ross pittss1c wrote: No headset appeard it would work for an infant (especially when their age is in small numbers of weeks) Eventually I modified earmuffs to fit (and not fold) and integrated 2" memory foam into the muffs to seal around/in the ear. Mike Ross Richardson wrote: I have always strapped my DoT approved child seat in the back of the Cessna 172F. I take the holding strap and go over the seat and lock it to where the seat belts are connected to the floor. My seat belts make the connection right behind the seat. Very difficult to release the seat belt to remove the child seat. I fly my grandchildren in it until they out grew it. Now is use booster seats so they can see out. Ross P.S. Don't forget hearing protection. I made some adapters for my adult headsets that worked just fine and the grandkids never were bothered about wearing them. Ross Andrew Sarangan wrote: We are considering a flight from the U.S. to Canada with our one-year old. I am a bit confused by the FAR's regarding child seats. On the one hand, it says that the child may be simply held by an adult, but then it says if you use a child seat it must be approved for aircraft use. Common sense would dictate that any child seat is better than nothing. But the FARs seem to say that no seat is better than a car seat. Anyone have experience with this? How do the rules differ in Canada? |
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message newsPB5g.6110$8q.122@dukeread08... As I understand the rules, any DOT approved child seat is OK in an airplane for an appropriate sized child. snip -- James H. Macklin ATP,CFI,A&P Only true if the child seat in question was manufactured between 1981 and 1985. After that, must be both DOT approved and certified for aircraft use. Other specifics apply, see §91.107 for details. -- Hello, my name is Mike, and I am an airplane addict... |
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A better and more complete answer. I also found a back
issue of AOPA Pilot with a big article on child seats. July 2005 -- James H. Macklin ATP,CFI,A&P -- The people think the Constitution protects their rights; But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome. some support http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties. "Michael Ware" wrote in message ... | | "Jim Macklin" wrote in message | newsPB5g.6110$8q.122@dukeread08... | As I understand the rules, any DOT approved child seat is OK | in an airplane for an appropriate sized child. | snip | -- | James H. Macklin | ATP,CFI,A&P | | Only true if the child seat in question was manufactured between 1981 and | 1985. After that, must be both DOT approved and certified for aircraft use. | Other specifics apply, see §91.107 for details. | | -- | Hello, my name is Mike, and I am an airplane addict... | | |
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