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"Terry M" wrote in
m: KEWL shots...!!!! I got to see the SR-71 take off from Kadena Okinawa for its first mission over SE Asia back in the 60s. Got those along with a couple of others from a SR groundcrewman years ago.. |
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"J.F." wrote in news:Txx9j.70874$RX.8979
@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net: I sure remember this run up area. Thanks for the pics! J.F. "John Szalay" wrote in message 42... Just for good measure here is NASA photo of the tiedowns and engine run test. |
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John Szalay wrote in n
Just for good measure here is NASA photo of the tiedowns and engine run test. Well crap. sent the wrong photo..2nd try.. |
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John Szalay wrote:
WOW look at all the fuel under that bird Yikes.. |
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I do not remember exactly, I believe it was 1,300 gallons in 2 minutes.
"Hugh Tomlinson" wrote in message ... How much water would a B-52 go through on take off? Hugh "Eric" wrote in message ... We always had a symmetrical run up procedure (especially on ice)...on 4 engine types if you needed to go to max power on #2 engine, you also went to max power on #3 engine. Of course during engine trims you could go full power on all 4 or 8 for short periods of time. For awhile maintenance was deemed incompetent and we had to get a pilot to do max power runs. That was always a fiasco. The pilot didn't want to be there and very seldom cooperated with maintenance, they refused to understand the need to motor a green engine or to check for leaks BEFORE starting the engines. They would also get irritated whenever they had to do multiple starts and shutdowns because of problems encountered during the maintenance runs. On rare occasions I personally ran up C-135 and B-52's with J-57's with water injection on all engines, it was an extremely loud rough ride. I have also run up C-135 and B-52's with TF-33's, 707, 727, 737, and 747's, all were great, but none gave that bone jarring, teeth rattling ride as a BUFF in water. If memory serves me right, the J-57 produced; 11,000 lbs of thrust dry and 13,000 lbs wet at MRT. While the TF-33 (depending on series) produced 17,000 lbs of thrust at MRT. "jc" wrote in message ... On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:48:24 -0600, "Eric" wrote: If you want teeth rattling and the feeling that your heart is going to vibrate though your chest, you should try a B-52G with all 8 burning water (water injection for the uninitiated). I never got to work on the SR-71, but their power runs were always awesome. Your teeth rattled from a 1/2 mile away. A quick check says the -52 engines are rated at almost 57k lbs of thrust but you can only get "hands on" with two at a time. Only? Yah, right! The Rolls engines on the 747's and L1011's that I worked on were in the 40,000 lb. area, while the later planes, such as the 767, kicked it up quite a bit. Get into the 777 and you're up there with two of the 52's engines at full power. But any of 'em will vibrate your filllings pretty good. The "old timers" say the piston engines rattled you around more than the jets... personally, I'll admit going back as far as 707's but I've run a couple of fairly large radials. They shook more but to me, they didn't seem to make the air vibrate like the big jets do. For as smooth as they are, that much 'stuff' moving around at those kinds of RPM, well, even trimming a 'little' engine on a DC-9 or MD-80 can rattle you around pretty good. For most guys, the first time they experience it is not something they'll ever forget! Cheers, jc |
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Yeah, I bet they had to tie that sumbitch down real good! Thanks! Regards, PLMerite "John Szalay" wrote in message 42... John Szalay wrote in n Just for good measure here is NASA photo of the tiedowns and engine run test. Well crap. sent the wrong photo..2nd try.. |
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Hugh Tomlinson wrote:
How much water would a B-52 go through on take off? Hugh i think that depends on how much it was raining...... redc1c4, tossing out a white smoke & heading for cover. %-) -- "Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear considerable watching." Army Officer's Guide |
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:55:37 -0600, John Szalay
wrote: Man, that's great you saved those, it's some real history! Cheers, jc |
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:37:09 GMT, Maple1 wrote:
John Szalay wrote: WOW look at all the fuel under that bird Yikes.. Yeow! I knew they leaked like seives but that's really scary! I know the fuel was some weird stuff but does anyone know how volatile the stuff really was? I've tried to explain to people, after they've seen movies like Die Hard xxxxx (or whatever) that jet planes don't have garden faucets on the engines and that Jet A can't be lit up with a cigarette, match or lighter but they saw on the movies and it must be true.... sigh. Cheers, jc |
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On 18 Dec 2007 08:59:01 -0600, jc
wrote: Yeow! I knew they leaked like seives but that's really scary! I know the fuel was some weird stuff but does anyone know how volatile the stuff really was? Not much. Consider that it was actually used as coolant in some areas of the plane... |
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