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Old June 18th 07, 10:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Note that the "engine" stalled as a result of flying into a box
canyon...
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/s....13839aa8.html

The reporters never seem to get that a stall has nothing to do with
the engine.

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Old June 18th 07, 11:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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wrote in message
ups.com...
Note that the "engine" stalled as a result of flying into a box
canyon...
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/s....13839aa8.html

The reporters never seem to get that a stall has nothing to do with
the engine.


The pilot's name was Berk Snow. The passenger was his wife, who suffered a
broken neck and multiple-day exposure (the crash may have happened as early
as Thursday) apparently up on a ridge where she was rescued.

If any of you are familiar with Burning Man, he was sort of a hero there for
exposing so many non-aviation people to the joy of flying.

-c


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Old June 18th 07, 11:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jun 18, 4:12 pm, "Gatt" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...

Note that the "engine" stalled as a result of flying into a box
canyon...
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/s...7-valley_co.13...


The reporters never seem to get that a stall has nothing to do with
the engine.


The pilot's name was Berk Snow. The passenger was his wife, who suffered a
broken neck and multiple-day exposure (the crash may have happened as early
as Thursday) apparently up on a ridge where she was rescued.

If any of you are familiar with Burning Man, he was sort of a hero there for
exposing so many non-aviation people to the joy of flying.

-c


Sorry to hear he was a friend of yours... how much experience did he
have with back-country flying?

Dean

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Old June 18th 07, 11:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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wrote in message
oups.com...

The pilot's name was Berk Snow. The passenger was his wife, who suffered
a
broken neck and multiple-day exposure (the crash may have happened as
early
as Thursday) apparently up on a ridge where she was rescued.


Sorry to hear he was a friend of yours... how much experience did he
have with back-country flying?


I don't know for sure. We exchanged a few e-mails but I never had a chance
to meet him in person. The forums he and I were on is pretty shaken up
about it, though. He was a member of the backcountrypilot.org forum.

-c


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Old June 19th 07, 03:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jun 19, 9:58 am, wrote:

The reporters never seem to get that a stall has nothing to do with
the engine.


I don't think it's fair to blame reporters, probably what was said is
"he flew into the canyon and stalled the aircraft trying to get out"
or something like that, a reporter is not (necessarily) a pilot, stall
in the common man's vocabularly is associated with engines not wings.

When talking to lay-persons, reporters especially, pilots and
associated personell should avoid that S word and spell out the
ramifications instead.

What they should have been told is something like "he flew into the
canyon and in trying to get back out they inadverantly caused the wing
to stop producing lift".

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Old June 19th 07, 04:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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James Sleeman wrote in message
.com...
On Jun 19, 9:58 am, wrote:

The reporters never seem to get that a stall has nothing to do with
the engine.


I don't think it's fair to blame reporters, probably what was said is
"he flew into the canyon and stalled the aircraft trying to get out"
or something like that, a reporter is not (necessarily) a pilot, stall
in the common man's vocabularly is associated with engines not wings.

When talking to lay-persons, reporters especially, pilots and
associated personell should avoid that S word and spell out the
ramifications instead.

What they should have been told is something like "he flew into the
canyon and in trying to get back out they inadverantly caused the wing
to stop producing lift".


That doesn't sound much more useful to the average person. I would think
"they ended up flying too slow." would be adequate.

- Rick


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Old June 19th 07, 05:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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writes:

Note that the "engine" stalled as a result of flying into a box
canyon...
http://www.ktvb.com/news/localnews/s....13839aa8.html

The reporters never seem to get that a stall has nothing to do with
the engine.


Unfortunately, journalists cannot be specialists in everything, so they often
get all sorts of things wrong. Something to remember the next time you read
an article concerning a subject in which you're not a specialist yourself: the
article may be way off the mark.
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Old June 19th 07, 05:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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James Sleeman writes:

I don't think it's fair to blame reporters, probably what was said is
"he flew into the canyon and stalled the aircraft trying to get out"
or something like that, a reporter is not (necessarily) a pilot, stall
in the common man's vocabularly is associated with engines not wings.

When talking to lay-persons, reporters especially, pilots and
associated personell should avoid that S word and spell out the
ramifications instead.

What they should have been told is something like "he flew into the
canyon and in trying to get back out they inadverantly caused the wing
to stop producing lift".


What makes you so certain it was an aerodynamic stall? That type of stall
normally does not cause a crash. The stalling of an engine, however, which is
apparently what the passenger mentioned, could easily cause a crash or make
one more likely.
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Old June 19th 07, 05:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

James Sleeman writes:

I don't think it's fair to blame reporters, probably what was said is
"he flew into the canyon and stalled the aircraft trying to get out"
or something like that, a reporter is not (necessarily) a pilot,
stall in the common man's vocabularly is associated with engines not
wings.

When talking to lay-persons, reporters especially, pilots and
associated personell should avoid that S word and spell out the
ramifications instead.

What they should have been told is something like "he flew into the
canyon and in trying to get back out they inadverantly caused the
wing to stop producing lift".


What makes you so certain it was an aerodynamic stall? That type of
stall normally does not cause a crash. The stalling of an engine,
however, which is apparently what the passenger mentioned, could
easily cause a crash or make one more likely.


You're an idiot.

Stall accidents are very common indeed, fjukktard.

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

Bertie

 




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