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How do weather services get sky conditions above the surface?
Mxsmanic wrote in
: Rocky Stevens writes: Not that it really matters, but I am sure you could pass the FAA written; it is a very easy, multiple choice test. Maybe, but tests tend to stress me a lot and I don't do well on them. I hate competition. Competition? You truly are a moron. Buttman is the perfect instructor for you. Bertie |
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How do weather services get sky conditions above the surface?
Nomen Nescio wrote: I'm far from an expert on this, but I'd put my bet on ALL the MX supporters being MX himself. After all, could there really be anyone, other than MX, who doesn't think MX is an idiot, an asshole, and a chronic failure? That tinfoil hat you're wearing seems to be frying your brain. |
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How do weather services get sky conditions above the surface?
On Jul 24, 2:24*am, buttman wrote:
On Jul 23, 7:37*am, Mxsmanic wrote: It's easy enough to establish measurement stations on the surface to measure wind, temperature, visibility, etc., but what is the normal way for meteorologists to measure these things aloft? *Do they depend on PIREPs, or expendable/recoverable probes and balloons, or satellites, or what? Theres a little "eye" that looks up at the sky at various points. It detects if there is cloud, or sky. The sensor is prone to errors, though. Sometimes if it's broken, it'll say its overcast because some of the sensors are pointing diagonally and are sensing the side of the cloud. I had an ATC college-style text book that had a very informative diagram of how they worked, but that book is long gone. here is an example of one. No imaging device there, just a couple of bolimeters. Cheers |
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How do weather services get sky conditions above the surface?
On Jul 24, 12:58 pm, "Steve Foley" wrote:
"Morgans" wrote in message ... I'm glad for your amusement, but do you think your amusement is worth the dismantling of one of the (previously) most useful forums on aviation, by aviators? If you think that it is worth it, then you have too high of a value placed on your own entertainment. Ignoring him is not sufficient. His departure is the only thing that is sufficient. -- Jim in NC I took a 12 month vacation from RAP. He still didn't leave. When I came back most of the posts I saw were MX, followed by bertie, followed by Max, followed by bertie - max - bertie - max - - - - - I'm trying to figure out how to set up my own nntp server, with my own rules. Once I've got it up and running the way I want, I'll publish the address. Here's a preview: You'll never see a post by MX, Bertie, or Max, nor will you ever see a response to them. You'll also never see a post by a spammer, unless a known poster decides to spam, or if I decide it's not really spam. You should really check out the AOPA forums; they are excellent. You have to be a member to use them, but it is only 40 bucks a year and WELL worth it. |
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How do weather services get sky conditions above the surface?
buttman wrote in
: Nomen Nescio wrote: I'm far from an expert on this, but I'd put my bet on ALL the MX supporters being MX himself. After all, could there really be anyone, other than MX, who doesn't think MX is an idiot, an asshole, and a chronic failure? That tinfoil hat you're wearing seems to be frying your brain. the voice of experience speaks. Bertie |
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How do weather services get sky conditions above the surface?
§ñühwØ£f wrote in
news On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:27:31 +0000, Bertie the Bunyip aided th' terraists with the following claims : Mxsmanic wrote in : §ñühwØ£f writes: I would a55ume that they have planes in the air at some point and the aircraft report the ceiling height of teh clouds and then they estimate windspeed from observaton stations on the ground. I'm just guessing. I knew a weather observer once. That makes sense. I wonder how they estimate things like heights and distances, though. I suppose experience would help to come up with educated guesses for these, but one might still be way off. Certainly experience would be useful in recognizing specific cloud types and patterns. One article I read (I think it was Wikipedia) mentioned just ten radiosondes for the entire Caribbean, that's hardly what I'd call high-resolution measurement. You could almost fit a hurricane between radiosondes. You are an idiot. Bertie Maybe they use dopplar radar to tell the height of the clouds, eh? Otherwise I assume some sort of math involving triangulation and other difficult things. Nah, it's easy. They compare the temperature to the dewpoint add in th edry adiabatic lapse rate and voila, you get the cloudbase. Observation is used for terminal areas, otherwise, though, it's still done the old fashioned way for the most part. These days, al info is mixed together, whihc gives a much better actual and forecasting capability. bertie |
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An nntp of my very own!
§ñühwØ£f wrote in
news On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:09:39 +0000, Bertie the Bunyip aided th' terraists with the following claims : "Steve Foley" wrote in news:Kw2ik.499$_l.72@trnddc04: "Morgans" wrote in message ... I'm glad for your amusement, but do you think your amusement is worth the dismantling of one of the (previously) most useful forums on aviation, by aviators? If you think that it is worth it, then you have too high of a value placed on your own entertainment. Ignoring him is not sufficient. His departure is the only thing that is sufficient. -- Jim in NC I took a 12 month vacation from RAP. He still didn't leave. When I came back most of the posts I saw were MX, followed by bertie, followed by Max, followed by bertie - max - bertie - max - - - - - I'm trying to figure out how to set up my own nntp server, with my own rules. Once I've got it up and running the way I want, I'll publish the address. Here's a preview: You'll never see a post by MX, Bertie, or Max, nor will you ever see a response to them. You'll also never see a post by a spammer, unless a known poster decides to spam, or if I decide it's not really spam. Snort. Like that'd stop me. Bertie This is interesting. Is the OP in question saying that they have the skills to fly a plane but *lack* the skills to configure a kilfile? If so, this is indeed troubling news and would provide a clue as to *why* our skys are so unsafe today. You're joking, of course, but in fact, you've hit the nail right on the head. Don't know about the OP, but a startling number of pilots today are spoon fed idiots who need a Nintendo DS in front of them to do the simplest flights... Bertie |
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An nntp of my very own!
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:09:39 +0000, Bertie the Bunyip aided th' terraists
with the following claims : "Steve Foley" wrote in news:Kw2ik.499$_l.72@trnddc04: "Morgans" wrote in message ... I'm glad for your amusement, but do you think your amusement is worth the dismantling of one of the (previously) most useful forums on aviation, by aviators? If you think that it is worth it, then you have too high of a value placed on your own entertainment. Ignoring him is not sufficient. His departure is the only thing that is sufficient. -- Jim in NC I took a 12 month vacation from RAP. He still didn't leave. When I came back most of the posts I saw were MX, followed by bertie, followed by Max, followed by bertie - max - bertie - max - - - - - I'm trying to figure out how to set up my own nntp server, with my own rules. Once I've got it up and running the way I want, I'll publish the address. Here's a preview: You'll never see a post by MX, Bertie, or Max, nor will you ever see a response to them. You'll also never see a post by a spammer, unless a known poster decides to spam, or if I decide it's not really spam. Snort. Like that'd stop me. Bertie This is interesting. Is the OP in question saying that they have the skills to fly a plane but *lack* the skills to configure a kilfile? If so, this is indeed troubling news and would provide a clue as to *why* our skys are so unsafe today. Discuss. -- "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/16052 |
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How do weather services get sky conditions above the surface?
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:27:31 +0000, Bertie the Bunyip aided th' terraists
with the following claims : Mxsmanic wrote in : §ñühwØ£f writes: I would a55ume that they have planes in the air at some point and the aircraft report the ceiling height of teh clouds and then they estimate windspeed from observaton stations on the ground. I'm just guessing. I knew a weather observer once. That makes sense. I wonder how they estimate things like heights and distances, though. I suppose experience would help to come up with educated guesses for these, but one might still be way off. Certainly experience would be useful in recognizing specific cloud types and patterns. One article I read (I think it was Wikipedia) mentioned just ten radiosondes for the entire Caribbean, that's hardly what I'd call high-resolution measurement. You could almost fit a hurricane between radiosondes. You are an idiot. Bertie Maybe they use dopplar radar to tell the height of the clouds, eh? Otherwise I assume some sort of math involving triangulation and other difficult things. -- "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/16052 |
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How do weather services get sky conditions above the surface?
Rocky Stevens wrote in
: On Jul 24, 12:58 pm, "Steve Foley" wrote: "Morgans" wrote in message ... I'm glad for your amusement, but do you think your amusement is worth the dismantling of one of the (previously) most useful forums on aviation, by aviators? If you think that it is worth it, then you have too high of a value placed on your own entertainment. Ignoring him is not sufficient. His departure is the only thing that is sufficient. -- Jim in NC I took a 12 month vacation from RAP. He still didn't leave. When I came back most of the posts I saw were MX, followed by bertie, followed by Max, followed by bertie - max - bertie - max - - - - - I'm trying to figure out how to set up my own nntp server, with my own rules. Once I've got it up and running the way I want, I'll publish the address. Here's a preview: You'll never see a post by MX, Bertie, or Max, nor will you ever see a response to them. You'll also never see a post by a spammer, unless a known poster decides to spam, or if I decide it's not really spam. You should really check out the AOPA forums; they are excellent. You have to be a member to use them, but it is only 40 bucks a year and WELL worth it. The $40 per year keeeps Anthony out. |
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