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Plane crashes into tree
"N2310D" wrote:
CAVEAT!! This applies to the airplane on the roof, not in the tree. The plane in a tree pic is 100% real. I took it. Ron Lee "N2310D" wrote in message news:bJJeh.1604$Ft4.496@trnddc02... Photoshopped as well, of course. I wouldn't think so. I'm pretty sure it was not photoshopped. Here's why: 1. The anti-aliasing on diagonal edges, especially where part of the aircraft and part of the building form an acute triangle, is consistent. The pixel areas are the same, and the color blends are uniform. 2. I fiddled with the contrast to look deep into the shadows where the aircraft and the roof merge and there is a strand of wire or rope that loops around the left main gear, around the leading edge, back across the flap at the wing root and crosses under the fuselage. Entirely too much detail for a photoshopper to do, and the anti-aliasing is again, too consistent for the aircraft to have been plugged in as an overlay. I'll bet dinner for two in any restaurant of your choice within ten miles of L72 that this photo is valid. [Transportation not included.] |
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Plane crashes into tree
"Ron Lee" wrote in message ... "N2310D" wrote: CAVEAT!! This applies to the airplane on the roof, not in the tree. The plane in a tree pic is 100% real. I took it. Ron Lee I've no doubt, Ron and I apologize if it sounded like I was implying that yours was photoshopped. I just wanted to make sure that my bet was directed to the one on the roof. I did, however, look at yours with the same scrutiny but you certainly don't need any confirmation from me about its authenticity. Peace?? |
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Plane crashes into tree
I noticed about the only part not severely damaged was the oil access
cover. Since the plane in the tree is the same model as mine, I was sorely tempted to drive down (about 30 min) and ask about salvaging it. |
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Plane crashes into tree
"N2310D" wrote:
"Ron Lee" wrote in message ... "N2310D" wrote: CAVEAT!! This applies to the airplane on the roof, not in the tree. The plane in a tree pic is 100% real. I took it. Ron Lee I've no doubt, Ron and I apologize if it sounded like I was implying that yours was photoshopped. I just wanted to make sure that my bet was directed to the one on the roof. I did, however, look at yours with the same scrutiny but you certainly don't need any confirmation from me about its authenticity. Peace?? No problem. Another guy did photoshop this to make the "Learn to Fly Here" sign more prominent. I will accept the limitations of what conditions existed. Ron Lee |
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Blanche wrote:
I noticed about the only part not severely damaged was the oil access cover. Since the plane in the tree is the same model as mine, I was sorely tempted to drive down (about 30 min) and ask about salvaging it. I looked for it a few minutes yesterday and could not find it. It was removed from the tree on Friday. I could use a longer oil filler tube! Thanks for the suggestion. Ron Lee |
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Mxsmanic is clueless
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Mxsmanic wrote: FLAV8R writes: Check this one out: http://www.aviatordave.com/flight_school.htm This image has been photoshopped. No, it hasn't. Look at the shadows. And while I have not yet had a chance to talk to a 737 pilot, I did have a chat with a 757 pilot yesterday and asked him how long a 757 would remain stable with the autopilot off. He looked at me like I was crazy for asking the question (and rightly so) and said "not very long." rg |
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Mxsmanic is clueless
Ron Garret writes:
No, it hasn't. Look at the shadows. I am. The drop shadow behind the sign has been very amateurishly executed. And while I have not yet had a chance to talk to a 737 pilot, I did have a chat with a 757 pilot yesterday and asked him how long a 757 would remain stable with the autopilot off. He looked at me like I was crazy for asking the question (and rightly so) and said "not very long." How long is "not very long"? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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Mxsmanic is clueless
Ron Garret wrote: In article , Mxsmanic wrote: FLAV8R writes: Check this one out: http://www.aviatordave.com/flight_school.htm This image has been photoshopped. No, it hasn't. Look at the shadows. Uh, Ron, Mx is right, it's a infamously Photoshopped picture. As others have pointed out, the airplane in the side of the building is really held up by lots of wires, and has no "Learn to Fly Here" sign. Regards, Kev |
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Mxsmanic is clueless
In article om,
"Kev" wrote: Ron Garret wrote: In article , Mxsmanic wrote: FLAV8R writes: Check this one out: http://www.aviatordave.com/flight_school.htm This image has been photoshopped. No, it hasn't. Look at the shadows. Uh, Ron, Mx is right, it's a infamously Photoshopped picture. As others have pointed out, the airplane in the side of the building is really held up by lots of wires, and has no "Learn to Fly Here" sign. Regards, Kev Well, OK. But he airplane really is on the side of the building. (Of course, it was placed there. It didn't crash there.) rg |
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Mxsmanic is clueless
In article ,
Mxsmanic wrote: Ron Garret writes: No, it hasn't. Look at the shadows. I am. The drop shadow behind the sign has been very amateurishly executed. And while I have not yet had a chance to talk to a 737 pilot, I did have a chat with a 757 pilot yesterday and asked him how long a 757 would remain stable with the autopilot off. He looked at me like I was crazy for asking the question (and rightly so) and said "not very long." How long is "not very long"? I actually pressed him for details because I knew you would ask this. He said several things. First, he said he didn't really know because he'd never actually tried it. Company policy forbids disconnection of the autopilot in cruise. The airplane is unstable enough that doing so is actually potentially dangerous. To keep the plane flying safely without the autopilot at cruise requires constant attention. An autopilot failure in cruise (unlikely because there are redundant autopilots) is an emergency which requires immediate diversion to the nearest airport. Bottom line is that a 757 handles not much differently from any other heavy, clean plane. In perfectly smooth air if you have it perfectly trimmed you might have a minute or two at the outside. Under realistic conditions (a little turbulence, less than perfect trim) you have a few tens of seconds before you are in an unrecoverable roll. In bad weather you could be unrecoverable in only a few seconds, but that would be unusual. It's not like a helicopter where if you take your hands off the stick for a few seconds you're pretty much guaranteed to die. He also said you'd get altitude excursions sooner than roll excursions. This is consistent with my personal experience which is that as planes get faster (and my personal experience covers a range of 90-180 KTAS cruise speed) they get harder and harder to trim for pitch. rg |
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