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Old June 9th 06, 08:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Dante" wrote in message
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That is not a crosswind landing. It is or was the normal approach for Kai
Tak. I can't remember if it was buildings in the way or what precipitated
the requirement but it certainly had nothing to do with wind. Yes it

looks
impressive, maybe thats why they are well paid, 'course it's a doddle
compared to landing on a carrier deck in heavy seas.


Barbers Point Hawaii has a very similar approach. You come in straight
toward to the beach and as soon as you cross the 'surf line' you bank 90
degrees and line up on the runway. You don't have a lot of time to react and
you've really got to 'slam it over' to line up on the runway. In fact, the
Pilot is looking out his side window to see the runway and start the turn.


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Old June 10th 06, 12:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:29:48 -0500, Rich Ahrens wrote:

My CFI's first real landing of a 747 (as opposed to sim work) was at Kai
Tak as a Northwest first officer. Heck of a way to break in.


Excuse me but I think I detect grade AAA1* bull$hit.

Probably in the mid 90's there was article in the flying press about
Kai Tak covering such things as the flying club and light aircraft
activity (sunday mornings only) but they also followed an aircraft all
the way through the approach, with a copy of the approach plate and
pictures from the cockpit and the ground at each stage. If I recall
correctly it was a USA based carrier they followed. Great emphasis
was put on the fact that absolutely no one except pilots with very
high hours on type can bid for the HK routes and that the approach is
flown in the simulator many times before they do it for real.

The idea that new crew on type would make their first real landing at
Kai Tak is laughable - unless of course he was coming in over the
water to land on 31 when it's a piece of ****.


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Old June 10th 06, 01:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Martin wrote:
Excuse me but I think I detect grade AAA1* bull$hit.


Your privilege. I'm reporting what he said, so I'm not bull****ting.
Whether or not he is - well, I know him, and I don't know you, so I'm
more inclined to believe him than you.

If I recall correctly it was a USA based carrier they followed. Great
emphasis was put on the fact that absolutely no one except pilots
with very high hours on type can bid for the HK routes and that the
approach is flown in the simulator many times before they do it for
real.


Your recollection sounds spotty and even if accurate is apparently based
on a single carrier. And I'm sure he would have flown it in the sim.
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Old June 10th 06, 03:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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I tried saving everything between the # signs and another including the
# signs and got an error message both times.
What am I doing wrong?


The file that worked for me looks like this:



?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?
kml xmlns="http://earth.google.com/kml/2.0"
Placemark
nameTai Kek - threshold/name
LookAt id="khLookAt639"
longitude114.1855754172161/longitude
latitude22.33115115307646/latitude
range9224.606404125258/range
tilt4.617814675820289e-010/tilt
heading137.0698383241931/heading
/LookAt
styleUrlroot://styleMaps#default+nicon=0x307+hicon=0x317/styleUrl
Point id="khPoint640"
coordinates114.1943674119204,22.32364675210839,0 /coordinates
/Point
/Placemark
/kml




No blank lines anywhere, and saved as "KaiTek.kml"
Don't forget the ".kml" extension.

Oh yea, you have to have Google Earth installed.


 




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