IFR with a VFR GPS

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:36:32 -0500, Wizard of Draws
wrote:



My new Airmap 2000c, which was the reason for this thread, has them.
Vintage Garmin 195, updated software and database, has them, and
approaches as well.

Ron Lee wrote:

Your non-IFR GPS has intersections in it? What model is it?

My Garmin GPSMAP 196 has intersections in it. I sure wish it had
airways in there by name too, that would be handy.

Ron Lee wrote:
"Stan Prevost" wrote:

That seems to be an overly broad statement. I have put "VFR GPS" in Remarks
when filing /U for an off-airways (random) route and had controllers
specifically refer to using my VFR GPS to proceed direct to an intersection.
Whether they should have done so is another issue. But is sure seemed to
make a difference.


Your non-IFR GPS has intersections in it? What model is it?

Ron Lee

Every Garmin handheld I have owned, 195, 295, and 296, have a complete
Americas Jeppesen LNAV database; all intersections, waypoints, airports,
runway layout for IFR airports, all communications and nav frequencies,
distance to FAA transmitter, and so forth.

The approach is abbreviated but all the fixes are in the database to
build the complete approach as a flight plan.

The terrain database of the 296 is essentially the same as any
full-press EGPWS I have used. It just doesn't have the aural warnings.

Ron Lee wrote:

That seems to be an overly broad statement. I have put "VFR GPS" in Remarks
when filing /U for an off-airways (random) route and had controllers
specifically refer to using my VFR GPS to proceed direct to an intersection.
Whether they should have done so is another issue. But is sure seemed to
make a difference.

Your non-IFR GPS has intersections in it? What model is it?

I didn't know there was any such thing as a VFR aviation GPS that
didn't have intersections. All of Garmin's certainly do. No airways,
though.


All the best,


David

"Stan Prevost" wrote in message
...

That seems to be an overly broad statement. I have put "VFR GPS" in
Remarks when filing /U for an off-airways (random) route and had
controllers specifically refer to using my VFR GPS to proceed direct to an
intersection. Whether they should have done so is another issue. But is
sure seemed to make a difference.


In what way?

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Stan Prevost" wrote in message
...

That seems to be an overly broad statement. I have put "VFR GPS" in
Remarks when filing /U for an off-airways (random) route and had
controllers specifically refer to using my VFR GPS to proceed direct to
an intersection. Whether they should have done so is another issue. But
is sure seemed to make a difference.


In what way?


I misremembered the flight on which I received direct to an intersection.
On that flight, I had filed a combination of airways and direct VOR. At one
point, a controller asked if I could use my VFR GPS to navigate direct to an
intersection, bypassing the VOR I was flying on an airway to.

Do you think I would have been asked to use my VFR GPS to navigate direct to
an intersection if I had not indicated on the flight plan that I was
equipped with a VFR GPS?

"Stan Prevost" wrote in message
...

I misremembered the flight on which I received direct to an intersection.
On that flight, I had filed a combination of airways and direct VOR. At
one point, a controller asked if I could use my VFR GPS to navigate direct
to an intersection, bypassing the VOR I was flying on an airway to.

Do you think I would have been asked to use my VFR GPS to navigate direct
to an intersection if I had not indicated on the flight plan that I was
equipped with a VFR GPS?


My statement was made with regard to filing the flight plan. You don't need
to put "VFR GPS" in remarks when you file if you want a direct route. Just
file direct, ATC will assume you can fly what you file.