Avgas in France has reached $7.50/gal !

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Morgans wrote:

You and Gary deserve each other. Pot - Kettle - Black.

You seem to be quite good at slmming goups of people too, such as
midwesterners.

See ya. Not.

Plonk

Hey, plonk me too. I also think the French are morons.


Second that!


Been there, saw them in action, they are a disgusting lot, make me number
three.

Agreed! That comes from my experience there in/through 1974, 1977, 1989,
1998 and 2000.

"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in
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Kinda like getting car insurance to cover oil changes, but limiting
coverage to $1000 and getting waxed when your $25,000 car gets
totaled.




20% of employed Americans do not have health insurance.

But they have all sorts of other toys. I know a few myself. Of course, they
have cell phones that cost $60 or more a month, but not catastrophic health
insurance that costs around the same amount.


Many small
employers do not provide any kind of health coverage. Those of us
fortunate to be employed by large organizations may not appreciate this.

Fortunate? You get a job based on fortunes of life?

If those people buy insurance, the high premiums will drive them into
bankruptcy with greater certainty than taking a chance without
insurance. Either way they are doomed.

Evidently, you have no clue about various forms of insurance and what it
costs. I won't even mention other aspects, as evidenced by the previous
paragraph, such as maturity.

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"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in
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Kinda like getting car insurance to cover oil changes, but limiting
coverage to $1000 and getting waxed when your $25,000 car gets
totaled.




20% of employed Americans do not have health insurance.

But they have all sorts of other toys. I know a few myself. Of course,
they have cell phones that cost $60 or more a month, but not
catastrophic health insurance that costs around the same amount.


Many small
employers do not provide any kind of health coverage. Those of us
fortunate to be employed by large organizations may not appreciate
this.

Fortunate? You get a job based on fortunes of life?


That is exactly kind of arrogance that the rest of the world dislikes about
us. Ask any nobel laureate, and they would admit that luck and good fortune
had as much to do with their success as hard work and intelligence. I am
quite well off in life myself, and I have been educated by the best, but I
have never been conceited enough to ignore my good fortunes.



If those people buy insurance, the high premiums will drive them into
bankruptcy with greater certainty than taking a chance without
insurance. Either way they are doomed.

Evidently, you have no clue about various forms of insurance and what
it costs. I won't even mention other aspects, as evidenced by the
previous paragraph, such as maturity.


I will let others decide your comment about maturity. I measure maturity by
how well one can contain himself when faced with opposing views, not by
their political opinions. YMMV

Matt Barrow wrote:

Fortunate? You get a job based on fortunes of life?

Yep. According to the NY Times (the job market section of which I check every
Sunday), roughly 80% of all the professional positions never get advertised. The
people who land them get turned onto the position by their friends. The PC term
for this is "networking." Another way to put it is that you can land a decent
job if you're lucky.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.

Gary Drescher wrote:

Imagine that the above quote had gratuitously invoked the ethic or religious
identity of the person in question ("ignorant xxxxx yahoo"), instead of
saying 'mid-west'. The implied stereotype would be obvious, even though just
one person is (nominally) addressed. Same for 'mid-west', I'm afraid.

I disagree. I'm unaware of any stereotypical behavior which might be associated
with mid-westerners. Perhaps I'm simply uninformed in this matter.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.

You speak with the wisdom of a cosmopolitan traveler. I suspect that
Mr. Honeck has never stepped foot in France or anywhere else in
Europe, else how can his provincial attitude be explained?

I own and operate a hotel in a city that is home to a world-class
university, with 35,000 under- and post-graduate students, and 15,000
faculty members and staff.

As such, I am fortunate to interact with people from all over the world on a
daily basis.

As you can see, I needn't fly to France, as the world comes to me.

:-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Yep -- in *my* family, nobody talks about the Schwarzwalders. At least,
not since WWII.

War criminals?

My parents talked about the anti-German prejudice my grandparents (and
others) experienced during World War I. But there was apparently no such
backlash during or after World War II -- at least not in the (admittedly
predominantly German) Midwest...
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Yep. According to the NY Times (the job market section of which I check
every Sunday), roughly 80% of all the professional positions never get
advertised. The people who land them get turned onto the position by their
friends. The PC term for this is "networking." Another way to put it is
that you can land a decent job if you're lucky.

In my experience, networking has very little to do with luck.

Some people call it "schmoozing" -- but in real life, networking is a lot of
hard, sometimes crappy, work, and is often associated with glad-handing
people you would just as soon not deal with.

In this way it's a lot like "customer service" -- except that *you* are the
ultimate customer.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

How else
do you explain the fact that medical bills are a leading cause of
bankruptcies in this country?

You have pointed out something that needs to be addressed: It's all about
personal responsibility.

People in this country, for some strange reason, simply no longer feel
compelled to pay for the services or goods they have received.

Why, or how, this has evolved is irrelevant. However, it's become such a
terrible problem in America that Congress has been compelled to enact
legislation to restrict bankruptcies, lest the avalanche of defaults destroy
our legal and economic system.

Strangely, rather than blaming the people who have ripped off everyone
around them, you seem to be viewing this phenomenon from the wrong end of
the telescope. You seem to be describing the perpetrators as the victims,
and appear to describe the problem as if it was somehow the fault of someone
other than those people who have chosen not to pay their bills.

Stranger yet, you don't seem to realize that Americans who truly can't pay
their medical bills DON'T HAVE TO PAY THEM. If you are indigent, and sick,
you have no worries, as the state will pay your bills 100%.

It is only the people who have -- or did have, if they had exercised sound
judgment and purchased catastrophic health coverage -- the ability to pay
who now find themselves in jeopardy.

And before you tell us how "unaffordable" health coverage is, do a little
research. Catastrophic health care -- the kind of insurance that doesn't
pay for your broken leg, but DOES pick up everything over and above "x"
amount (you pick the amount) -- is easily affordable by the majority of
Americans without insurance.

The fact that some people choose to roll the dice and hope that they don't
get really sick -- and lose -- has somehow been characterized as a "health
care crisis" in America, when, in fact, these people should be put into the
same category as the "victims" who for years kept building homes along the
shores of the Mississippi River, not far from Iowa City.

Even the Feds, after rebuilding these homes every other year with
"emergency" tax money insurance bail-outs, grew weary of the flood scam, and
have now forced local taxpayers in riverfront communities to build levees
and dikes to protect their cities...

Check out AFLAC insurance. It's affordable, very specific, and for the
cost of a cable TV subscription will cover someone quite adequately in the
event of a catastrophic illness or injury -- the kind that most often drives
a person into bankruptcy.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in
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But I like to be brought to the ER after an accident ASAP and beeing
searched
for an insurance card _after_ the emergency treatment.

Martin, I don't know what kind of propaganda they've been feeding you
in Austria, but in America no one cares about who's paying for the
bills here until after the emergency medical services are rendered.

And, in fact, we *do* have nationalized health care in this country
for the indigent. Those who deny this fact clearly have no concept of
how our medical system works. (Mary's "other" job is doing
statistical computer analysis for a major health care provider, and
she spent 20 years as a Medical Technologist "in the trenches" drawing
blood, etc. She analyzes budgets, and gets to see, first hand, how
Medicare and other government programs pay 100% of health care costs
for anyone who walks in the door without insurance..)

Could the system be set up in a more efficient way? Hell, yes. But
it *is* functioning, and our health care *is* quite excellent.

"George Patterson" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:

Fortunate? You get a job based on fortunes of life?

Yep. According to the NY Times (the job market section of which I check
every
Sunday), roughly 80% of all the professional positions never get
advertised. The
people who land them get turned onto the position by their friends. The PC
term
for this is "networking." Another way to put it is that you can land a
decent
job if you're lucky.

Or if you're tenacious and willing to work "outside the box". The rest
shower the job boards with resumes, probably 99% of which don't address a
specific position and are boilerplate.

Which traits would you look for if hiring someone?


Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO