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Old September 2nd 08, 02:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Jules
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Frank Olson wrote:
Otherwise it's "keep your eye out for deadheads" (and
deadbeat boat drivers) - at least in Canada.


Yes. One cottage owner was steering his boat into floatplanes to thwart
them from landing. He also called and complained that the plane operator
was at fault and cutting off his boat. Witness' proved otherwise.

He was a summer owner from the US.

Tourists.

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Old September 2nd 08, 06:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:22:11 +0200 (CEST), ET wrote:

Whoever owns the water.


How do you determine who does?


http://www.seaplanes.org/library/wld.htm


Thx!
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Old September 2nd 08, 06:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:16:16 GMT, Mike wrote:

How do you determine who does?


Most bigger lakes are going to be controlled by the state or by a local
water authority. The state would be a good place to check first.


Yeah, I'm in FL, we have private waters, submerged land leases (marinas,
boat docks, etc) and State-Owned (beaches). Will check FL. Private
waters I suppose would be trespassing.
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Old September 2nd 08, 06:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:17:50 -0500, Zebulon wrote:

"Gezellig" wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:33:30 GMT, Drew Dalgleish wrote:

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 17:36:24 -0400, Gezellig
wrote:

Who determines where you can or cannot land one?

In Canada it's the pilot.


Let's say the State of X is the water owner. In CA, the pilot can land
anywhere. Without penalty?

In US? Where is the jurisdiction enforced?


At least in the Midwest US, most of the lakes are controlled by the US Army
Corp of Engineers. They maintain one of more offices in every state around
here.


FL here, ACoE, Water Management Districts, some FL DEP, State, it's a
mess.

What got me interested was a poster who was claiming he liked the Icon
A5 which is built around the corner from me.

http://www.iconaircraft.com/

The statement was he thought it would be neat to be able to fly from
lake to lake or whatever, the idea of freedom of access to many
waterbodies (the sports, shores, camping, etc). Sounded nice to me as
well but practical?
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Old September 2nd 08, 06:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:51:36 GMT, Mike wrote:

"Gezellig" wrote in message
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Who determines where you can or cannot land one?


Whoever owns the water.


Anyone have any experience in training and receiving their seaplane
certification?
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Old September 2nd 08, 07:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Sep 1, 2:36*pm, Gezellig wrote:
Who determines where you can or cannot land one?


Not only do you need to check for permission, more and more lakes are
begining to require inspections before putting anything in the water
(boats, jet skis, planes, etc). People are really afraid of this
mussle problem going around and are very, very afraid of boats, etc
spreading mussles from one lake to another. I no longer do much sea
plane flying but I'm assuming the lack of "clean" mogas is a hug
problem for them. We used to be able to taxi up to the dock and buy
gas. Today a lot of the auto gas contains illegal ethanol.

-Robert
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Old September 2nd 08, 08:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:31:43 -0700 (PDT), "Robert M. Gary"
wrote:

On Sep 1, 2:36=A0pm, Gezellig wrote:
Who determines where you can or cannot land one?


Not only do you need to check for permission, more and more lakes are
begining to require inspections before putting anything in the water
(boats, jet skis, planes, etc). People are really afraid of this
mussle problem going around and are very, very afraid of boats, etc
spreading mussles from one lake to another. I no longer do much sea
plane flying but I'm assuming the lack of "clean" mogas is a hug
problem for them. We used to be able to taxi up to the dock and buy
gas. Today a lot of the auto gas contains illegal ethanol.

-Robert


The proliferation of jet skis has one positive side. Many marinas now
sell premium gas which is usually ethanol free. My plane is an
amphibian so I usually just buy 100LL at an airport. Saves the hassle
of checking every time.
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Old September 2nd 08, 08:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gezellig" wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:16:16 GMT, Mike wrote:

How do you determine who does?


Most bigger lakes are going to be controlled by the state or by a local
water authority. The state would be a good place to check first.


Yeah, I'm in FL, we have private waters, submerged land leases (marinas,
boat docks, etc) and State-Owned (beaches). Will check FL. Private
waters I suppose would be trespassing.


Not necessarily. If the owner of a lake takes money or assistance from the
state, they may be bound to allow public access which may include landing an
amphib.

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Old September 2nd 08, 09:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:37:44 GMT, Mike wrote:

"Gezellig" wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:16:16 GMT, Mike wrote:

How do you determine who does?

Most bigger lakes are going to be controlled by the state or by a local
water authority. The state would be a good place to check first.


Yeah, I'm in FL, we have private waters, submerged land leases (marinas,
boat docks, etc) and State-Owned (beaches). Will check FL. Private
waters I suppose would be trespassing.


Not necessarily. If the owner of a lake takes money or assistance from the
state, they may be bound to allow public access which may include landing an
amphib.


Yeah, good point, Mike. many do to stock fish, etc.
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Old September 2nd 08, 09:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Gezellig
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 11:31:43 -0700 (PDT), Robert M. Gary wrote:

On Sep 1, 2:36*pm, Gezellig wrote:
Who determines where you can or cannot land one?


Not only do you need to check for permission, more and more lakes are
begining to require inspections before putting anything in the water
(boats, jet skis, planes, etc). People are really afraid of this
mussle problem going around and are very, very afraid of boats, etc
spreading mussles from one lake to another. I no longer do much sea
plane flying but I'm assuming the lack of "clean" mogas is a hug
problem for them. We used to be able to taxi up to the dock and buy
gas. Today a lot of the auto gas contains illegal ethanol.

-Robert


The gas thing is a for sure, I wasn't aware of the mussels issue (FL not
sure we have one). Is it some kind of disease Xport?
 




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