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Impressed with the Courtesy of ATC from NC to Miami and Back
"jls" wrote in message oups.com... It's been a while since I did much radio work with ATC and was dreading it but found ATC very courteous, helpful, and professional. Those people work in pressure cookers, and yet they manage to be so nice. One thing I noticed. The controllers have widely differing personalilties and voices--and are quick with the words --- a real treat to listen to. It's great to be an American. I stopped in Bacon County, GA to fill up at a self-service pump --- 2.90 a gallon --- and met a nice Georgian there, who also commented that Jax Approach were the nicest folks around. He was traveling with his German Shorthaired Pointer in a Bonanza, and told me where to go to get a Coca-Cola, since I was about dehydrated. Ain't life just grand, and that much grander that we can fly! Yeah... love the crew over at JAX. Did a flight from Ft Pierce to Savannah and back a year ago, dead of night, just "BS'd" with JAX for a while, got the handoff to daytona, was as little busier... orlando was "unable flight following"..... |
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Impressed with the Courtesy of ATC from NC to Miami and Back
Fascinating info, Thanks Mike.
Mike Weller wrote: When I was stationed there, I was in SAC. The airport was Statesboro Municipal and we just leased the spot from them. OB-17 was called an Oil Burner (Oh maybe that was an Olive Branch) route. Number 17 obviously. They would do qualification and training with our stolen SA-2 radars, and would also do what we called a "Pop Up" and get scored on their bombing accuracy. Considering that they had simulated nuclear weapons, they and I wondered what good it would do to "Pop Up" from 200 feet to 500 feet. In Kansas, I saw a B-52 pull up slightly to go over the only tree for miles around there. There's just not many trees in those wheat fields that go on forever. B-52s were allowed to fly at incredibly low altitudes on the OB routes and they had what was called terrain avoidance. It wasn't as good as the FB-111 that had terrain following. I guess that was why SAC never lost a B-52 while they were doing that stuff. Now Linebacker II was a whole different matter. The dumb ****ers at USAG, or where ever, sent them day after day on the same route, at the same altitude, and with the same jamming equipment. A monkey could have figured out how to shoot them down. And did. The only FB-111s that SAC lost were when they were joining up after a low level mission, and "got too close together". They had these really cool ejection pods for each of them, neither of which worked. Mike Weller |
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Impressed with the Courtesy of ATC from NC to Miami and Back
OB-17 was called an Oil Burner (Oh maybe that was an Olive Branch) route. Number 17 obviously. Originally Oil Burner. Renamed to the more Politically Correct just about the time of the 70's gas crunch. Pure coincidence, of course. -- A host is a host from coast to & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 |
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Impressed with the Courtesy of ATC from NC to Miami and Back
On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:10:09 -0700, "nooneimportant"
wrote: orlando was "unable flight following"..... I only fly into Orlando IFR, but you're right on the the tone that they use. I guess that they have a mix of traffic that can't be "fittend" to their system. Mike Weller |
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Impressed with the Courtesy of ATC from NC to Miami and Back
It's been a while since I did much radio work with ATC and was dreading
it but found ATC very courteous, helpful, and professional. Those people work in pressure cookers, and yet they manage to be so nice. I've heard others grumble about rude controllers, but in 50 years of military and civilian flying, I can't recall ever being treated rudely. Even when I did something stupid. vince norris |
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Impressed with the Courtesy of ATC from NC to Miami and Back
"jls" wrote in message One thing I noticed. The controllers have
widely differing personalilties and voices--and are quick with the words --- a real treat to listen to. Ain't life just grand, and that much grander that we can fly! S**t!! Last I flew from NC to FL, I was instructed to call JAX center upon landing. I called, and let me tell you how excited that fellow was. He asked if I was the pilot, and I responded that my answer would depend on what he was so excited about. First he wanted me to know that Center frequencies are available in that area. I thanked him, but advised him that his freq doesn't work so well at VFR altitudes in that area. Then he asked me what it was like. S**t!! It was cool. We had taken a film crew fishing, but got skunked to tune of $2000 in fuel, rigging and tackle, not to mention it was rougher than snot. We were flying back to FLL after leaving the boat in Moreshead, NC. I was in the cabin of the plane talking the owner of the boat. Something outside the window caught my eye. I looked past him and was struck by instant awe. We had company! It had a big speed brake that extended to the upright position. Its wings swept forward as it slowed to our speed. The infrared pod was moving up and down as it tracked us going up and down. It had Sidewinders. I did what any good commander would do. I yelled "Get those cameras!" "ACTION!" "Everyone wave!" "Dammit, Bobby, he doesn't want to see your hairy buttcrack!" It occurred to me that the F-14 pilot might wonder why the captain's seat was empty. He stayed with us for a while. We motioned for him to do a roll, but I guess he doesn't know how. Then he peeled off. Then we saw his wingman, who had been behind us up high, peel off and join up with him. It was the highlight of the whole danged trip. It was better than the time the FSDO called about. Next time you fly that route, go VFR across the water. Have your camera ready! D. |
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Impressed with the Courtesy of ATC from NC to Miami and Back
"vincent p. norris" wrote in message news It's been a while since I did much radio work with ATC and was dreading it but found ATC very courteous, helpful, and professional. Those people work in pressure cookers, and yet they manage to be so nice. I've heard others grumble about rude controllers, but in 50 years of military and civilian flying, I can't recall ever being treated rudely. Even when I did something stupid. You must have a different standard for rude :~) I've seen a few (not a lot, thankfully) that had some male version of PMS. |
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You must have a different standard for rude :~)
Oh, I know rude when I hear it. Years ago, for example, I was asked to hold at the VOR I was approaching. While I went into the hold, I heard the same controller instruct another pilot to change altitude. Instead of just doing it, the pilot began to berate the controller because this was the second or third time he'd been asked to change altitude. HE, not the controller, was rude! Despite the pilot's rudeness, the controller patiently and politely explained he was trying to expedite the pilot along his way but had conflicting traffic, which required altitude changes. Before I completed one circuit of the hold the controller cleared me to proceed, explained why he had asked for the hold, and thanked me for "helping me out." I've been thanked on other occasions for "helping me out." My point is that pilots can be rude too, and if one is courteous to the controller, he or she will probably be courteous in return. vince norris |
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