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Old April 17th 05, 05:41 PM
Michael 182
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Default Garmin 430 user waypoints question

Is there a simple way to program the Garmin to handle in-flight route
instructions such as :

"Pass 10 miles N of XYZ at 10,000 ft" or "Continue inbound to ABC, then the
131 radial to DEF..."

I can make user waypoints, but it seems a little slow and awkward,
especially in hard IFR. Any tricks?

Thanks,

Michael



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Old April 17th 05, 06:18 PM
BTIZ
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lets see.. I would remember the 10 mile restriction in my brain (and on my
note pad) while flying direct to XYZ... then direct to ABC... and then in
VOR (OBS) mode tune and fly the 131 radial outbound from ABC.... I'd also
check the charts to see if DEF is a "direct to" DEF.

This is only from memory as I have not flown often with the Garmin
430-530-1000 systems. But have in the past.

BT

"Michael 182" wrote in message
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Is there a simple way to program the Garmin to handle in-flight route
instructions such as :

"Pass 10 miles N of XYZ at 10,000 ft" or "Continue inbound to ABC, then
the 131 radial to DEF..."

I can make user waypoints, but it seems a little slow and awkward,
especially in hard IFR. Any tricks?

Thanks,

Michael





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Old April 17th 05, 06:24 PM
Michael 182
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"BTIZ" wrote in message
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lets see.. I would remember the 10 mile restriction in my brain (and on
my note pad) while flying direct to XYZ...


This leads to another question. Lets say I'm flying a 150 heading to XYZ. I
receive the instruction "Pass 10 miles N of XYZ at 10,000 ft". Does that
mean continue my present heading and 10 from XYZ be at 10,000 feet, or does
it mean find the waypoint that is 10 miles N on the 360 radial and pass that
point at 10,000 feet?


then direct to ABC... and then in
VOR (OBS) mode tune and fly the 131 radial outbound from ABC.... I'd also
check the charts to see if DEF is a "direct to" DEF.


Woudn't it have to be direct given a radial?


"Michael 182" wrote in message
...
Is there a simple way to program the Garmin to handle in-flight route
instructions such as :

"Pass 10 miles N of XYZ at 10,000 ft" or "Continue inbound to ABC, then
the 131 radial to DEF..."

I can make user waypoints, but it seems a little slow and awkward,
especially in hard IFR. Any tricks?

Thanks,

Michael



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Old April 17th 05, 08:57 PM
Peter R.
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Michael 182 wrote:

Is there a simple way to program the Garmin to handle in-flight route
instructions such as :

"Pass 10 miles N of XYZ at 10,000 ft" or "Continue inbound to ABC, then the
131 radial to DEF..."


You can use either the NAV1 page or the FlightPlan1 page for this: Just
before reaching XYZ and assuming XYZ is the waypoint to which you are
currently navigating, roll your OBS to the 360 degree radial, then hit the
GPS's OBS button. This will suspend waypoint sequencing and give you your
distance from XYZ. The CDI will provide you the reference to remain on 360
degree radial.

Scan the NAV1 or Flightplan1 page for the distance you have flown from XYZ.

When you have crossed the 10 NM as determined by NAV1 or FLightplan1 page,
then hit the OBS button to cancel OBS mode and return to waypoint
sequencing. You may have to use the flight plan page and cursor down to
the next waypoint, followed by the DIRECT-TO button.

I would recommend downloading and installing the free GNS430 simulator,
then trying this out:

http://www.garmin.com/products/gns430/#

You also could experiment with this during a VFR day using a nearby VOR.


I can make user waypoints, but it seems a little slow and awkward,
especially in hard IFR. Any tricks?


I have done this for my home class C airport, where they commonly will
issue the following instruction to IFR and some VFR aircraft approaching
from the west:

"Fly direct to the SYR VOR, depart SYR VOR on the 090 degree radial"



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Old April 18th 05, 12:29 AM
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Michael.. do not take the N/S/E/W literally..

maintain your current course.. 150 or direct to XYZ.. you are heading
approx.. SSE (135being SE and 180 being S).. so when you are 10nm NNW or N
you should be at the restriction given..

If you alter course to intercept the XYZ360010, you could be violated for
not following the ground track given.

BT

"Michael 182" wrote in message
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"BTIZ" wrote in message
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lets see.. I would remember the 10 mile restriction in my brain (and on
my note pad) while flying direct to XYZ...


This leads to another question. Lets say I'm flying a 150 heading to XYZ.
I receive the instruction "Pass 10 miles N of XYZ at 10,000 ft". Does that
mean continue my present heading and 10 from XYZ be at 10,000 feet, or
does it mean find the waypoint that is 10 miles N on the 360 radial and
pass that point at 10,000 feet?


then direct to ABC... and then in
VOR (OBS) mode tune and fly the 131 radial outbound from ABC.... I'd also
check the charts to see if DEF is a "direct to" DEF.


Woudn't it have to be direct given a radial?


"Michael 182" wrote in message
...
Is there a simple way to program the Garmin to handle in-flight route
instructions such as :

"Pass 10 miles N of XYZ at 10,000 ft" or "Continue inbound to ABC, then
the 131 radial to DEF..."

I can make user waypoints, but it seems a little slow and awkward,
especially in hard IFR. Any tricks?

Thanks,

Michael





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Old April 18th 05, 01:06 AM
Mike Rapoport
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Usually you get a crossing restriction referencing a point on your flight
plan, so in your case XYZ is in the 430's flight plan already. Go to the
VNAV page and put in the distance and altitude from XYZ and your 430 will
give you a Vertical Speed Required (VSR) on the Nav page to intercept the
altitude at the specified point.

I usually us the OBS mode to intercept and track radials but you need two
GPSs or a second VOR reciever to identify the intersection of the crossing
radials. If you get the same instructions frequently you may want to create
a user waypoint. The problem then is remembering what you named it.

Mike
MU-2


"Michael 182" wrote in message
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Is there a simple way to program the Garmin to handle in-flight route
instructions such as :

"Pass 10 miles N of XYZ at 10,000 ft" or "Continue inbound to ABC, then
the 131 radial to DEF..."

I can make user waypoints, but it seems a little slow and awkward,
especially in hard IFR. Any tricks?

Thanks,

Michael





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Old April 18th 05, 02:05 AM
Peter R.
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Mike Rapoport wrote:

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The problem then is remembering what you named it.


If the name of the user waypoints in the GNS430 were six instead of five
characters, we could have used VOR+radial, but alas...

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