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Captain Wubba wrote:
This may sound silly, but I take a $0.99 pair of clear protective goggles (from Sears or Home Depot, or wherever), then put duct tape over the top half of the lenses, and along the sides. I got tired of losing $20 foggles. I hope I don't have to go this route. I'm lazy. But it may be what I do. When I did my IFR training, I used foggles. They were terrific for me, my glasses, and my headset. After receiving the rating, I managed to find enough poor weather to stay current w/o the foggles. In the meantime, I got a new pair of glasses which dip less low below my natural sight-line than my previous pair. That is, there's more uncorrected visual space when I look down my nose, for example. A few months ago, I tried to use foggles, and found it very difficult. The clear part of the foggles is only partially corrected for my vision by my glasses. I've only a little trouble with the instruments (although I need to move my head too much), but charts on my lap are just impossible to see. I need to find something with which to replace the foggles, but I've not figured out yet what. I'm afraid that anything close to my glasses (ie. something which clips on) is going to have a similar problem. So I may have to fall back on something like a hoodlamp or traditional hood. I'm disappointed, though, as I liked the ease of the foggles. Anyone have suggestions? Thanks... Andrew |
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I use a Viban and love it. They have 2 versions, one for folks with
glasses, and one without. http://www.viban.com Sloan The way I see it, you can either work for a living or you can fly airplanes. Me, I'd rather fly. -- Len Morgan "Jeff Saylor" wrote in message ... If you are a pilot who uses both a headset and eyeglasses, what IFR trainng device works and fits best for you? The generic foggles, like Sporty's sells? The Jeppesen JeppShades Flip-Up hood? A particular model of hood? |
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I used the flip-up devices that fit on my glasses, but my examiner
refused to let me use them because of excessive perpheral vision - made me put on a cardboard hood she carried with her. Now that I've done more actual IFR, I agree with her - the ideal device would not permit you to see even shadows moving inside the cockpit. I almost had to re-learn IFR skills when I started the real thing. Once in cloud, there is NO visual cue that you are climbing or turning apart from those instruments. |
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I'm a glasses wearer & used a hoodlamb for all of my IFR training, and
continue use it for the occasional recurrent training and practice. I've liked it alot--it does a very good job of blocking your peripheral vision, you can transition very quickly and easily between "under the hood" and VFR, notably, at the end of an ILS to minimums to a visual landing, and, if you're practicing during the day with the sun low on the horizon, since it's completely opaque plastic, it does an excellent job of blocking the sun. Since it does attach to a headset, getting it to attach to headsets with narrow speaker stirrups, such as those on the DC H10-13.4 can be a bit of a problem. I wrapped some electrical tape around the stirrups of my DC 13.4, and generally do not have a problem with it staying on the headset. --Paul Keller |
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The cheapest one you can buy is the best one. These things get lost and
broken a lot. |
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Andrew Gideon wrote in
online.com: After receiving the rating, I managed to find enough poor weather to stay current w/o the foggles. In the meantime, I got a new pair of glasses which dip less low below my natural sight-line than my previous pair. That is, there's more uncorrected visual space when I look down my nose, for example. Those new tiny lenses may be stylish, but they're not very practical. I'm still using larger lenses, although somewhat smaller than my old ones, because the small lenses just aren't big enough for my variable bifocals and looking straight ahead also. My bifocal lens is about the size of the glasses they sell now, and I just can't live with that. -- Regards, Stan |
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In article , Jeff Saylor wrote:
If you are a pilot who uses both a headset and eyeglasses, what IFR trainng device works and fits best for you? The generic foggles, like I had a generic hood that worked fine. It's a piece of curved plastic with a strap that goes around your forehead. kind looks like the brim of a baseball cap on 'roids. Unfortunately, despite their ability to take extreme abuse, I wound up bending it so it wasn't really usable. Last year, I bought something called a 'Super Hood' (and I'm still mad at Sporty's about it and won't buy from them). The hood is in two parts. A kinda normal-looking brim, and a plastic piece that clips to the brim. The nice thing about it is that the plastic piece comes off easily when you get to the MDA/MAP and you can look at how well you did. Then, when you go missed, you can clip it back on. I'd recommend it if you can buy it from anyone else. Morris |
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Jeff Saylor writes:
If you are a pilot who uses both a headset and eyeglasses, what IFR trainng device works and fits best for you? The generic foggles, like Sporty's sells? The Jeppesen JeppShades Flip-Up hood? A particular model of hood? I've tried most of the above and some others. Here are my views on several of them... 1) If you are using David Clark or compatible design headsets the _Hoodlamb_ is excellent. I leave mine permanently attached to my DC headset, always ready for use. It works great with glasses, goes on and off easily, and is not a hassle. A few minor problems with this otherwise excellent device I have older DC headsets with full-width stirrups, which is what this is designed to work. It works well. Newer DC headsets have narrow stirrups, and the manufacturers of the hoodlamb don't provide a narrower "shoe" for these headsets. It is more difficult to adjust it. As I grow older I've found the nearness of the device to my eyes to be somewhat intrusive. This really shows up in that it is I no longer get a "crisp" seperation between my eyeline and the panel. It is easy to get the hoodlamb cocked a bit and delete portions of the panel from view from one eye. It is also difficult to adjust the field-of-view because it is molded plastic. Because it blocks your _downward_ vision it makes using checklists and reading appoach plates in your lap or on a kneeboard an exercise in head movement which is bad in instrument flight. Or, makes that manuever uncomfortable. All that being said, I'd still be using my hoodlamb, and miss it and its convenience ..but I'm using headsets it won't fit on. 2) The Jepp Shades are a great idea for a compact hood. Unfortunately they don't allow wearing glasses -- they are much too close to one's face. Also, when "unhoooded" the "visor" doesn't rotate upward enough to remove itself from your peripheral vision. I find that annoying. It might work ok with "small" glasses. 3) Super Hood. This is what I picked up to use on my noise-cancelling headset. I find it does a good job of being a hood. Because it doesn't block downward vision, it doesn't interfere with checklists, charts, approach plates, and other such items. You can readily modify your field of view by cutting the hood to include things which should be in your field of view. It is also easy to _add_ obstructions to the hood to block things (such as the corner of a window) you would prefer not to see. Because the "lip" is farther from your eyes it creates a crisp transition between the hood and the panel. It is also quite easy to position the "holder" on your head to keep exactly what you want in view. The "hood" slips off easily for conversion to VFR flight. It takes more effort to put back on than the hoodlamb. I've managed to leave it in the airplane a few times when "throwing" it into the backseat when transitioning to visual from an approach. Out of sight, out of mind. Because of the size of its "snoot", my safety pilot(s) have commented that they have more work to do to look around it to get a good view past me. That is unfortunate, and something you might want to consider in a higher-traffic area. When I loaned it to people I fly with, it didn't seem worse than normal to me... but if the "energy" ran out of my traffic watch , the reduction in vision, esp peripheral, would be not great. I like this thing, but I miss the hoodlamb for its readiness, and convenience. 4) Foggles. I use these from time to time on an emergency basis. I've been thinking of buying a pair for my students to use, since they are more convenient to carry continuously than a conventional hood. They don't work well with glasses -- at least the larger size glasses I use. A friend who uses smaller "reading" type glasses for looking at instruments seems to have no problem using them. I don't like the gap in the headset seal they create. And the extra noise which results. That has been my experience with a variety of hoods over the last several years. Hope it helps. Bolo -- | Josef Burger U of WI-Madison Computer Sciences | "No matter where you go, | "Bolo" uwvax!bolo | There you are" | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bolo/ | -- Buckaroo Banzai |
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