the USS Eisenhower Carrier Battle Group doesn't make for a 'massive' build-up for war with Iran

wrote:
Mike Weeks has other questions to answer which he has previuosly dodged
on the USS Liberty murders....


I wonder how much stipend he draws from MoSSaD.

Regrettably, matters more important than him now are taking up the
lion's share of my free time---trashing fraud filed in the war crimes
complaint by the wacko subset of the Liberty Survivors


More paid shills? Will it ever end?
:-(

His use of profanity, therefore, would better be applied to himself...


Amen.


wrote:
wrote:
mikey...

1)stop the profanity;to wit, use of the word ,"****head"...you're
acting with less class than what the good lord originally intended.

2)is that Salvador Astucia really an "antisemite"?...
what's wrong with ****head?

Mike Weeks is an evil individual...

....yet he has taken an extremely bad poker hand and played it as best
he could(USS Liberty murders...GOI story stunk to high heaven right
from get-go...gets stinkier and stinkier when you even begin to scratch
the surface)

wrote:
Mike Weeks is an evil individual...


As well as being an UnAmerican asshole.

...yet he has taken an extremely bad poker hand and played it as best
he could(USS Liberty murders...GOI story stunk to high heaven right
from get-go...gets stinkier and stinkier when you even begin to scratch
the surface)


IsReeL stinks. It needs wiped from the pages of history, like Mahmoud says.

Defendario wrote:

IsReeL stinks. It needs wiped from the pages of history, like Mahmoud says.

That;s another stupid and bigoted comment you've made about the Jews -
are you an anti-semite? It's amazing the amount of stupid comments made
in this thread so far.

Mike...

1)hyperlink me to where Ambassador Richard Parker completely
discredited Greg Reight in 1997


2)http://hometown.aol.com/libertyincident/JEJMpage4.html

Mike ....

a)is the bombed out Egyptian planes photo doctored like the IDF Gun
Camera Photo in the IDF History Report of 1982?

b)..is it like the doctored Thames/ Cristol gun camera photo provided
by the Government of Israel to Cristol on p.79 of "The Liberty
Incident"

This is a serious issue, Mike....

I'm looking at LIFE Magazine Vol62...June 16, 1967 page 38D....did LIFE
crop the photo also,Mike?

3)With Israel now being caught TWICE in doctoring Gun Camera
Photos...can we assume Reight is now telling the truth that Israel had
no photo recon aircraft units in 1967???

What reason would Reight have to lie at this late date?

Mike...

1)hyperlink me to where Ambassador Richard Parker completely
discredited Greg Reight in 1997


2)http://hometown.aol.com/libertyincident/JEJMpage4.html

Mike ....

a)is the bombed out Egyptian planes photo doctored like the IDF Gun
Camera Photo in the IDF History Report of 1982?

b)..is it like the doctored Thames/ Cristol gun camera photo provided
by the Government of Israel to Cristol on p.79 of "The Liberty
Incident"

This is a serious issue, Mike....

I'm looking at LIFE Magazine Vol62...June 16, 1967 page 38D....did LIFE
crop the photo also,Mike?

3)With Israel now being caught TWICE in doctoring Gun Camera
Photos...can we assume Reight is now telling the truth that Israel had
no photo recon aircraft units in 1967???

What reason would Reight have to lie at this late date?

Mike ...you stated the Reight phot had been cropped to eliminate the
shadow of the Delta-winged Mirage...where did Reight produce such a
cropped photo?

That is a serious charge....Where did Ambassador Parker completely
discredit Reight in 1967.

Is the Delta-Winged Mirage Photo at the same angle as the 6/16/1967
LIFE Magazine photo on page 38D????

Is this another example of doctoring?

Could the IDF have realized their mistake in giving LIFE Magazine photo
recon pictures and sent an overflight on a different date than
6/5/1967...

....Again, are those two photos at the same angle???....

This is where the West Bank land was grabbed, Mike...it would have
serious geo-politial implications in the UN Security Council if there
was photographic proof that the US and UK assisted in a land grab....

...as opposed to "defending a state surrounded by neighbors bent on its
destruction".

Mike...seize the opportunity to turn back from your wicked, wicked ways
and join me in turning the "senseless slaughter" of those 34 into some
kind of "meaningful sacrifice".


1)Is this another example of doctoring?

2)Are those two photos at the same angle???....

http://hometown.aol.com/libertyincident/JEJMpage4.html

versus

The photo in LIFE Magazine Vol62...June 16, 1967 page 38D....


3)and please,hyperlink me to where Ambassador Richard Parker completely
discredited Greg Reight in 1997...

4)Was "dead in the water" filmed in 1997?

Hyperlink me to the date/publication where Greg Reight first made his
claims and produced the supposedly cropped photo

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Hmm..

I guess you don't remember when the USN nearly wiped out ALL Iranian's
Navy back in the 80s.

Just as the USN never remembers that
Egypt, rather than Olympic idiots like
Ronnie Reagan closed the Suez Canal.




AirRaid wrote:
I don't understand... the deployment of the Eisenhower Carrier Battle
Group alone does not seem like we're ready or even getting ready for an
air-war against Iran. even assuming there are say, 2 other Carrier
Battle Groups in the Gulf and/or Med, that still does not seem like
the United States is ready to goto war against Iran.

in Gulf War I / Desert Storm, the U.S. had 6 Carrier Groups in the
region.

in Gulf War II / Iraqi Freedom, the U.S., I believe, had 5 Carrier
groups in the region.

Iran is far larger and undamaged from years of airstrikes. they capable
of taking out U.S. warships unlike Iraq. one would think the U.S.
would need at least
6 to 8 Carrier groups (with a lot of Aegis cruisers & destroys) in the
area to deal with Iran, unless the USAF is going to play a larger role.


I just don't see how the Eisenhower group arriving in late October, and
some minesweepers, is signaling war with Iran anytime soon. unless the
USN build-up is much larger than reported, and the U.S. already has a
massive amount naval firepower there, or in route.


then again, I suppose a single Ohio-class ballistic missile submarine
loaded with Trident II SLBMs with many *small* nuclear warheads each
could do the job

William Black wrote:

As usual some thought provoking and interesing materal, which can best
be found by

SNIPS OF MUCH FOOLISH CHEST THUMPING BY BOTH "DEFENDARIO" AND "DARN GOOD
INTELLIGENCE"



After a nuclear attack on Iran Russia and China would almost certainly start
a campaign to marginalise the US internationally, and they'd get a lot of
support. I don't know if you noticed but the US isn't that popular at the
moment.

Ports all over the world would close to US shipping, attacks on US
embassies and tourists and US owned industrial plants. Along with
international boycots of US products plus China would dump all those
dollars.


Dump them where?

The only "victim" of a Russian or Chinese led "boycott" of the US or
attempt to marginalize would be the comlete implosion of the PRC's
economy, and the subsequent melt down of the domestic authority of the
PRC government.

How does the old line go, " If ypu owe the bank a mllion bucks ad ca't
pay ou are in trouble. If youowe the bak a illion bucks and can't pay,
the bank is in trouble."

The PC economy, and the PRC work force, can not risk edangering their
American markets.

World War III or a huge US depression...

Your choice...

Darn Good Intelligence wrote:
William Black wrote:

"Darn Good Intelligence" wrote in message
groups.com...


So you think that Russia and China would intervene on the behalf of the
Iranian lunatics? I don't think they'd dare.

Would you bet your life?


Yes. The Russians and Chinese would kick up a big fuss if the U.S
attacks Iran but they wouldn't use military means to stop the U.S. That
would be WW3.

So what would the US attacking Iran be? There has to be a time when the
bullying has to be stopped. The action advocated against Iran just means
that states that previously felt a degree of security suddenly feel more
threatened - and it's not by Iran, China or Russia!

Ricardo

--
"Quick to judge, quick to anger, slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice, and fear, walk hand in hand ..."