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  #31  
Old June 29th 08, 05:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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RST Engineering writes:

In a standard atmosphere, 43C at sea level would translate to 35C at
4000MSL.


Thirty-five degrees is still intolerable. And Gila Bend is at 789 feet MSL.
And that temperature is outside the aircraft, not inside, where it will be
hotter.
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Old June 29th 08, 05:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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muff528 writes:

If it's still too hot at 3000 feet just go higher till you cool off!
You're
in an airplane!


In this case, the service ceiling of the aircraft would make it difficult
to
cool off by climbing.


If that's as high as your airplane will go you probably should get another
airplane. At least don't fly around out west where the hills are higher than
that. Sometimes even the ground is higher than that! :-)
TP




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Old June 29th 08, 05:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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muff528 writes:

If that's as high as your airplane will go you probably should get another
airplane. At least don't fly around out west where the hills are higher than
that. Sometimes even the ground is higher than that! :-)


I try to avoid the mountains when flying a small plane. There are some
extensive flat areas in the American west, but it is true that sometimes to
get between two points it's hard to avoid the mountains, short of crossing
half the continent to go around them. Even if the aircraft has the requisite
ceiling, carrying oxygen for everyone is awkward and will not inspire
confidence in passengers.
  #34  
Old June 29th 08, 05:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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muff528 writes:

If that's as high as your airplane will go you probably should get
another
airplane. At least don't fly around out west where the hills are higher
than
that. Sometimes even the ground is higher than that! :-)


I try to avoid the mountains when flying a small plane.


I would extend that thought to include *any* plane :-)



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Old June 29th 08, 06:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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muff528 writes:

If it's still too hot at 3000 feet just go higher till you cool off!
You're in an airplane!


In this case, the service ceiling of the aircraft would make it
difficult to cool off by climbing.


BULL****. You don't know what you are talking about.

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Old June 29th 08, 06:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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muff528 writes:

If that's as high as your airplane will go you probably should get
another airplane. At least don't fly around out west where the hills
are higher than that. Sometimes even the ground is higher than that!
:-)


I try to avoid the mountains when flying a small plane. There are
some extensive flat areas in the American west, but it is true that
sometimes to get between two points it's hard to avoid the mountains,
short of crossing half the continent to go around them. Even if the
aircraft has the requisite ceiling, carrying oxygen for everyone is
awkward and will not inspire confidence in passengers.


More mindless twaddle from a moron.

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Old June 29th 08, 06:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Buster Hymen
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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RST Engineering writes:

In a standard atmosphere, 43C at sea level would translate to 35C at
4000MSL.


Thirty-five degrees is still intolerable. And Gila Bend is at 789
feet MSL. And that temperature is outside the aircraft, not inside,
where it will be hotter.


Wrong again, moron.

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Old June 29th 08, 07:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Stealth Pilot writes:

on the contrary it is a hell of a lot of fun.
just how long do you think it stays 43 C when you are flying for real?


Most of the flight, at moderate altitudes, or at least it stays too hot
for
most of the flight. My baron has an "air conditioning" switch, but it's
not
clear whether or not this is the real thing, since the real thing requires
a
compressor.


The "real thing" doesn't necessarily require a compressor.

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Old June 29th 08, 08:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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muff528 writes:

I doubt it would be uncomfortably hot at 3-4000 feet if it's 43° C on the
ground. Maybe you're flying too close to the ground.


The difference would only be a few degrees at 4000 feet, and that's not
enough
when the temperature at the surface is 43° C. Additionally, the
temperature
inside the aircraft would be higher at all times.


I was flying just yesterday and the temp was around 38° C nominal and easily
3-4° C hotter on the ramp. Once you get the big fan blowing in the front
and open the windows, it's certainly tolerable. We were flying locally at
about 4000 MSL and with the photo window open providing extra ventilation,
it was quite nice.

Right now at KTUS it's about 38° C on the ground, 25° C @ 6000 MSL, 17° C @
9000 MSL.

Even normally aspirated piston aircraft can generally get to 9000 MSL even
on hot days. Turbocharged aircraft can generally get to at least twice
that. Even above TUS today during the hottest part of the day if you're
above 12000 MSL you're probably going to be running the heater.

And yes, even on a 43° C it's a helluva lot more fun flying a real aircraft
than flying a computer in a climate controlled room.

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Old June 29th 08, 08:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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terry writes:

Not being a simmer myself, but dont you guys look at performance
charts and weather reports and make pretend flight plans and all that
sort of stuff that real pilots do? or do you just jump on the
computer and take off?


It depends on the simmer. Some go to extremes with details, others do
not. In simulation, you can simulate the part you enjoy, and skip the
part you don't, which is one of its key advantages.



It has no advantages since it isn't flight you stupid fjukk.



Bertie
 




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