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"WaltBJ" wrote in message om... Number of answers he If you were flying close formation you could barely hear the howl right around 89%. We used it on cross-countrys to let people know we were in town. We'd make a VFR letdown in close formation circling over town while Lead jockeyed his throttle around that magic 89%. Quite a few times I've walked away from my bird and there was a car waiting for me. On the ground it'd howl around 69% - handy to let your crew chief know you were back early. It was due to the interaction between the secondary and primary airflow in the nozzle. The J79-19 engine did not howl, alas, but it made up for that in performance. The Dash-19 also gave a definite sideways motion to the fuselage when acclerated off idle - kind of like gunning a good hot rod back in the old days in SoCal. PACATD - They are being used to good effect in the Part 141 school (AIMS Community College, Greeley, Colorado) that I taught in and retired from in 1995. AIMS still works very closely with our local FADO. The school also uses two AST 300 digital twin trainers - they are excellent for instrument training. I might add the final sim check in the professional pilot program is an exact duplication of an ATP check and the students pass it at about 220 total hours. Also, they fly the check in two parts, once as copilot and once as PIC. This is to evaluate CRM. The school has airline check captains give a good portion of these checks as a quality control monitoring method, too. FWIW I started that program at AIMS in 1987 as an Eastern rep, then when EAL got sick I retired from them in 89 and stayed here in Colorado rather than go back to Miami.. Walt BJ |
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I guess this was for me :-) Thanks!
Dudley "WaltBJ" wrote in message om... Number of answers he If you were flying close formation you could barely hear the howl right around 89%. We used it on cross-countrys to let people know we were in town. We'd make a VFR letdown in close formation circling over town while Lead jockeyed his throttle around that magic 89%. Quite a few times I've walked away from my bird and there was a car waiting for me. On the ground it'd howl around 69% - handy to let your crew chief know you were back early. It was due to the interaction between the secondary and primary airflow in the nozzle. The J79-19 engine did not howl, alas, but it made up for that in performance. The Dash-19 also gave a definite sideways motion to the fuselage when acclerated off idle - kind of like gunning a good hot rod back in the old days in SoCal. PACATD - They are being used to good effect in the Part 141 school (AIMS Community College, Greeley, Colorado) that I taught in and retired from in 1995. AIMS still works very closely with our local FADO. The school also uses two AST 300 digital twin trainers - they are excellent for instrument training. I might add the final sim check in the professional pilot program is an exact duplication of an ATP check and the students pass it at about 220 total hours. Also, they fly the check in two parts, once as copilot and once as PIC. This is to evaluate CRM. The school has airline check captains give a good portion of these checks as a quality control monitoring method, too. FWIW I started that program at AIMS in 1987 as an Eastern rep, then when EAL got sick I retired from them in 89 and stayed here in Colorado rather than go back to Miami.. Walt BJ |
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This is your best post of the night, Dud.
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message ink.net... "WaltBJ" wrote in message om... Number of answers he If you were flying close formation you could barely hear the howl right around 89%. We used it on cross-countrys to let people know we were in town. We'd make a VFR letdown in close formation circling over town while Lead jockeyed his throttle around that magic 89%. Quite a few times I've walked away from my bird and there was a car waiting for me. On the ground it'd howl around 69% - handy to let your crew chief know you were back early. It was due to the interaction between the secondary and primary airflow in the nozzle. The J79-19 engine did not howl, alas, but it made up for that in performance. The Dash-19 also gave a definite sideways motion to the fuselage when acclerated off idle - kind of like gunning a good hot rod back in the old days in SoCal. PACATD - They are being used to good effect in the Part 141 school (AIMS Community College, Greeley, Colorado) that I taught in and retired from in 1995. AIMS still works very closely with our local FADO. The school also uses two AST 300 digital twin trainers - they are excellent for instrument training. I might add the final sim check in the professional pilot program is an exact duplication of an ATP check and the students pass it at about 220 total hours. Also, they fly the check in two parts, once as copilot and once as PIC. This is to evaluate CRM. The school has airline check captains give a good portion of these checks as a quality control monitoring method, too. FWIW I started that program at AIMS in 1987 as an Eastern rep, then when EAL got sick I retired from them in 89 and stayed here in Colorado rather than go back to Miami.. Walt BJ |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: PC flight simulators From: "Gord Beaman" ) Date: 11/16/03 5:42 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: (ArtKramr) wrote: Subject: PC flight simulators From: "Bjørnar Bolsøy" am Date: 11/16/03 3:49 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: I was wondering if anyone in this NG play simulators? If so, which one? What's the best out there, currently. Regards... They are not really simulators. They are just computer games. Arthur Kramer Pretty inconsiderate Art...just because you don't play with them why denigerate someone elses fun? They do indeed simulate flight, so why do you make that stupid statement? -- -Gord. I flew real simulators. And I have flown the crap they make for computers.And anything that you can do on a computer isn't even close. If you want to fly your computer for fun ok,bur remember it is just a toy. but don't confuse it with real flying or flying a real simulator. I guess you have never flown Air Force simulators. If you had you wouldn't be talking such patent nonsense. Now be a good guy and just go away. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer Well Art, I fly military simulators on just about a daily basis, the Link P3C OFT and the Thales AP3C AFS and use on a regular basis PC simulators, apart from the fact that they can replicate aircraft systems with over 400 faults and have motion, I for the life of me, am having trouble understanding what the major difference is between a home simulator and a military simulator in terms of simulating the flight characteristics of an aircraft. I notice Art, that when I asked you if you had seen any of the current PC flight simulators, you didn't comment, so I'm asking you again Art, have you seen any of the current PC sims in use? Scet |
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Aces High is the best online sim. WWII.
Many real pilots fly there. It was also a real Lancaster pilot (Dresden) i dont know if he is still = there. 15 dollars a month, but it worth it, even the double. Stop to talk, come to fly and die check 6 On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:49:18 GMT, "Bj=F8rnar Bols=F8y" = wrote: I was wondering if anyone in this NG play simulators? If so, which one? What's the best out there, currently. Regards... |
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Try it, 15 days free
http://www.hitechcreations.com/htcindex.html On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:58:21 GMT, (John) wrote: Aces High is the best online sim. WWII. Many real pilots fly there. It was also a real Lancaster pilot (Dresden) i dont know if he is still = there. 15 dollars a month, but it worth it, even the double. Stop to talk, come to fly and die check 6 On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:49:18 GMT, "Bj=F8rnar Bols=F8y" = wrote: I was wondering if anyone in this NG play simulators? If so, which one? What's the best out there, currently. Regards... |
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Subject: PC flight simulators
From: "Tex Houston" 777 Date: 11/16/03 6:24 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "Gord Beaman" wrote in message .. . Get a room for chrissakes... -- -Gord. I've always been polite to you even with a disagreement. Why are you all of a sudden getting ****y with Art Kramer and me? Bewildered, Tex Bad manners and the delusion that sitting at a computer paying with games is the same as really flying. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Subject: PC flight simulators
From: "Jim Baker" Date: 11/16/03 8:14 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: AND, I play with the Microsoft Flight Sim sometimes just for the hell of it. Play is right That's what I said in the first place. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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ArtKramr wrote in message ... Bad manners and the delusion that sitting at a computer paying with games is the same as really flying. Art, I don't think anyone is honestly of the impression that flight sims on PCs are the same as real flight. And nobody is even beginning to suggest that combat simulators offer anything more than a brief glimpse of what you and your comrades and fellow airmen went through in the air over Europe in WW2. They're good at aiding in instrument training, learning basic procedures (like entering the landing pattern at airports, learning how to use ILS, tuning into the correct frequency for VORs and other NAVAIDS), and the very basic principles of powered flight. Not even Microsoft will tell you that their simulation software is intended to be used off-the-shelf as an ultra-realistic and precision-accurate representation of real world flight because it simply is not possible for it to be so. The only computer based simulators that offer any degree of accuracy in terms of "look and feel" are the massive multi-million £/$ moving simulators with complete working flight deck and one-piece 180 degree wrap-around screen. That's why they cost millions and FS2004 costs £50/$80. But I still wouldn't class MSFS as a game simply because it isn't capable of offering what a real aircraft or a purpose-built multi-million £/$ aircraft simulator can. (Just my 2p / 2c) Cheers Graeme |
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