Meigs now enjoyed by all!

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So by your definition, 9/11 was nothing also, a wreck is a wreck.


Please show me where he defined 9/11 as nothing.



This place has had more wrecks on a percentage of operations basis than
ORD.


Does it? What are the operations counts for ORD and LL22 and how many
wrecks have they had in the same time period?

Let's see, ORD does 100K's a year, LL22 maybe 10-20 a day.
During my 15 years in the area, Wrecks:
LL22-Two
ORD- an AMR jet hits the dirt, short of the rr. No injuries, but if you
miss the concrete and raise dirt clouds, thats a wreck in my book.
A decent record, but given Murphy's rule maybe a foam-er is due.

JG

Well-well, read 'em and weep:

Just slide that stack of poker chips over now:


"It was almost like they were an independent nation out there, with
**********no accountability**************
to the taxpayers," Schillerstrom said.

That has changed, he said.
The

*********** Airport Authority now collects about $6.5 million annually
in realestate taxes--about 20 percent of its $29.9 million a year
budget. **************

Over $10 from each person, child, senior, invalid, in the county-JG

None
of the property-tax revenue is used to pay airport operating costs.
Instead, the funds are used to retire debt.

The $12.8 million in long-term debt is scheduled to be paid off in
2007, at which time the property-tax levy could be cut in half, Goodwin
said.

COULD, like, maybe or if you say pretty please. Here comes a BUT, oh
a hangar for the pretty planes.


But the airport expects to borrow money to finance the construction of
a hangar addition. Goodwin said he is cautious about promising to
eliminate the need for property-tax funds until the airport is
debt-free and until a proposed high-technology research center on
airport-owned land along Roosevelt Road and Fabyan Parkway begins
generating revenues for the authority.

(SO, don't bet the kids college tuition on it. The TECH PARK
is a JOKE, miles away from the tollway and high office vacancies
already.-JG)


But for the first time, officials say, it ****appears*** that operating
revenues from hangar leases, the sale of aviation fuel and other fees
are enough to cover the day-to-day costs of running the airport.

****** Again with the APPEARS ****** do they cover or not?
Anyways, Vamanos!


(ALOT of Maybes, and It Appears)

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The main HQ is 3 miles away with a FOUR bay station, plenty close by
modern standards.


Apparently the people in this community didn't think so.



This addition was built after one of the wrecks.


So you concluded it was built to serve the airport?



Anyways, most residential areas can get by with VOLUNTEER FF's.


Obviously this one chose not to.



The big money corporate crowd needs the pros for their edifaces. But thats
another fish to fry.


Didn't you say this was a residential air park? How many corporate aircraft
use it?



I assume so, H20 not as effective on avgas. Anyways, they were the
special trucks you see on airport squads.


So you don't know. You seem to have assumed most of what you "know" about
aviation.



They could as in "there's no wall keeping them from leaving" don't know
about FAA regs.


Do you form all your opinions in a state of ignorance?



Except when they wreck and it takes 30 minutes for MDW trucks to
respond.


What do MDW trucks have to do with CGX?



Oh well, the construction crains are still swinging across LSD, the
condo folk can sleep well and the building boom continues, Miss Ya!


What kept the condo folks awake previously?



The common folk are the non-pilot SWA'ers.


I agree. Pilots are uncommon folks.



If MDW gets too busy then...
maybe Romeoville or.. Peotone will be open.


Perhaps Daley should have thought of that before he closed a perfectly good
airport.

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Let's see, ORD does 100K's a year, LL22 maybe 10-20 a day.
During my 15 years in the area, Wrecks:
LL22-Two
ORD- an AMR jet hits the dirt, short of the rr.


Actual figures, please, and cite your source so they can be verified.



No injuries, but if you
miss the concrete and raise dirt clouds, thats a wreck in my book.


Well need something better than your uninformed opinion. There may have
been no actual "wrecks" at all. A search of the NTSB database back to
1/1/90 produced no hits.

Andrew

Your post appeared the right font size, for the first time in a while. Did
you change something, or did I?
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
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So by your definition, 9/11 was nothing also, a wreck is a wreck.


Please show me where he defined 9/11 as nothing.



This place has had more wrecks on a percentage of operations basis
than
ORD.


Does it? What are the operations counts for ORD and LL22 and how many
wrecks have they had in the same time period?

Let's see, ORD does 100K's a year, LL22 maybe 10-20 a day.
During my 15 years in the area, Wrecks:
LL22-Two
ORD- an AMR jet hits the dirt, short of the rr. No injuries, but if you
miss the concrete and raise dirt clouds, thats a wreck in my book.
A decent record, but given Murphy's rule maybe a foam-er is due.

JG

I seem to remember a huge cloud of smoke upon leaving work one day back in
the '80s. Hundreds died. Based on your twisted thought process I guess you
should be lobbying to have O'Hare closed.

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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
wrote in message
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So by your definition, 9/11 was nothing also, a wreck is a wreck.


Please show me where he defined 9/11 as nothing.



This place has had more wrecks on a percentage of operations basis than
ORD.


Does it? What are the operations counts for ORD and LL22 and how many
wrecks have they had in the same time period?

Let's see, ORD does 100K's a year, LL22 maybe 10-20 a day.
During my 15 years in the area, Wrecks:
LL22-Two
ORD- an AMR jet hits the dirt, short of the rr. No injuries, but if you
miss the concrete and raise dirt clouds, thats a wreck in my book.
A decent record, but given Murphy's rule maybe a foam-er is due.

JG

So, what? How many people were killed/injured? Property damage? If the
answer is "none," then it is none of your damned business!

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David Dyer-Bennet wrote:
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The Park District is a seperate unit funded by property taxes, with the
Meigs fence gone, ALL can enjoy their property.

If I understand correctly how they're using the property now, it's of
no interest to *me*. Whereas the previous use, as an airport, was of
considerable recreational interest to me. (I'm not a pilot, have
never flow into Meigs, and in fact have never so much as *ridden* in a
single-engine fixed-wing aircraft.)

Perhaps the term "Park" District is not clear, i.e. its not an
AIRPORT DIST. Do they have "Parks" in your town, Dave?

Yes, and I know how much I use them and how much enjoyment I get out
of them. Especially parks that seem to be oriented around a big
bandshell; I really don't find that very interesting.
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Name other Commercial Airports that tax
residential property owners?
LAX ORD LGA?

be gone, Vamanos!


It is almost universally the other way around. The only reason that
Meigs was a "cash drain" is that the city of Chicago strangled it befort
they moved in the middle of the night and murdered it.

They used to have a thriving hangar/FBO setup there.

Just why couldn't the vaunted rock concerts have been held at any other
of Chicago's many parks? It isn't as if the city were hurting for parks
before they destroyed Meigs.

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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
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2 planes from the private strip in So. DuPage, Brookeridge, have
wrecked in the 1990's on
takeoff, almost hitting traffic and the local fire district (Darien)
built a special station just
for them. Pay for your own toys, jet-setters


Is the fire station limited to serving only the airport? How many jets are
based at Brookeridge?

It's one of those subdivisions with the houses and hangars facing a
private
strip, props, no jets.


FAA has no regs that mandate any firefighting at GA airports -- that is
a matter of community option. If a community decides to put a fire
station at he airport, it is there to serve the whole community, not
just the airport.

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