Hurricane relief

"Martin Levac" wrote in message
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"john smith" a écrit dans le message de
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"john smith" wrote in message
I would expect someone with any modicom of resoursefullness to
improvise
with whatever is at hand to overcome their situation without depending
on
outside agencies. I look at the news media images and see all kinds of
useful material just lying or floating around.
Solar stills
Solar cookers
Shelter
Maybe it's because I can read, was a Boy Scout, have a good mechanical
aptitude, and have self confidence, that I feel so self reiliant.

Steve S wrote:
So if you were born poor, can't read, don't have the skills to purify
water
(which I, a college graduate, don't have. Do you just boil it?) you
should
just die. What happens when one of those desparate poor people with
no
skills sees you with your home made purified water? Do they just look
at
you with puppy dog eyes and wish they had the skills to make some?
And
when
they ask you to share some you'll tell them too bad, you should have
learned
to make your own. Then they just sigh and say, you're right John, I
shall
just lay down and perish now.
No they'll shoot you and take your water because that is a skill they
do
know. However if support is sent to help those trying to help
themselves
they won't have to resort to primative tactics of survival and some
semblence of civil order may be attainable.

First, you tell them what materials they need to gather.
Second, you show them how to construct their own.
Third, if they are stupid enough to shoot you, there will no one teach
them the rest of the things they need to learn to stay alive, will
there?
As another poster pointed out, these people have been condition to
socialism and having their needs provided for them without any effort on
their part. How many examples of this have we seen on television and
heard on the radio this week? Countless!
As you so aptly pointed out in your last sentence, they are uncivilized
to begin with. Were they civilized, they would already understand the
necessity of order and structure to survive.

That's what I thought: You expect a ****ing miracle. Your intelligence
fails
you.

"First, you tell them what materials they need to gather"

Potable water, emergency medical services, dry clothing, shelter to get
out
of the sunlight, emergency transport, readily consumable food rations,
etc.
During several days following the passage of the hurricane, none of the
above was readily available in the immediate vicinity hence the need for
outside assistance.

It was and is all available in nearly unlimited quantities. What do you
think was in all the stores they were looting? Chances are they destroyed
what they really needed to get to the Nikes and TVs. No shelter, you have
got to be kidding. Food, tons of it was available. They would have had
access to emergency medical treatment except they attempted to hijack
ambulances and loot hospitals. There were a number of resourceful people
that managed to get out. The second and third generation welfare people are
the ones sitting around crying for government help. Not that the local,
state and federal governments didn't screw up big time. They were nearly a
week late in responding.