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Israel Threatens to Hit Damascus-Next step of A Clean Break?:



 
 
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  #151  
Old July 5th 06, 04:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,soc.history.what-if,alt.news-media
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Default Israel Threatens to Hit Damascus-Next step of A Clean Break?:

Jarg wrote:



I doubt they do, although due to there overwhelming advantages in military
strength the odds of an Israeli dying a violent death at the hands of a
Palestinian are quite low, and the average Israeli's quality of life is much
much better than that of the average Palestinian.


Which is kind of sad. If the Palestineans allowed sanity to rule for a
year, they too could have a good material life. Do recall what life in
Lebanon was like before Black September. The Christians and Moslems did
not exactly love each other, but they did -business- as opposed to
killing. The result was called the Switzerland of the middle east.
Lebanon would be a prosperous country today, if Palestinean crazies had
not invaded and ruined their thing.

Bob Kolker

  #152  
Old July 5th 06, 04:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,soc.history.what-if,alt.news-media
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Jarg wrote:
But I will say that there is a difference
in that the Palestinians are targeting innocents, whereas the Israelis have
caused civilian casualties in the course of fighting militants.


Usual spin/mantra from Israel apologists. Meanwhile, the genocide
against Palestinians continues. The Palestinians do what they
can to retaliate.

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Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.

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http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
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"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

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  #153  
Old July 5th 06, 04:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,soc.history.what-if,alt.news-media
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Jarg wrote:

Maybe you cheer for the Indians, I just see the inevitable results of a
conflict between people's of vastly different resources and technology.

Israel's existence is a fact which will not change no matter how much the
Palestinians wish otherwise. The sooner they stop their deluded dreaming,
the sooner the situation can be resolved.


Of course, never mind the illegal occupation, or that Arab land was
stolen in the first place to give Zionists their fake country....

The Zionists and hateful bigots like you are the ones who need to
get a clue. The Jewish population shrinks every year, while
the Muslim population is exploding. They ain't going anywhere.
Connect the dots.

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Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.

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http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
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"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

--
Cliff

  #154  
Old July 5th 06, 05:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,soc.history.what-if,alt.news-media
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Jarg wrote:
But I will say that there is a difference
in that the Palestinians are targeting innocents, whereas the Israelis
have
caused civilian casualties in the course of fighting militants.


Usual spin/mantra from Israel apologists. Meanwhile, the genocide
against Palestinians continues. The Palestinians do what they
can to retaliate.

-----
Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.

---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

--
Cliff


Sounds like you are the one engaging in propaganda by trying to justify the
deliberate targeting of women and children by Palestinian terrorists. Also,
I suspect that if the Israelis were really engaging in genocide there
wouldn't be any Palestinians left given the enormous military advantage
Israel has.

Jarg


  #155  
Old July 5th 06, 05:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,soc.history.what-if,alt.news-media
Jarg
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Default Israel Threatens to Hit Damascus-Next step of A Clean Break?:

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The Zionists and hateful bigots like you are the ones who need to
get a clue. The Jewish population shrinks every year, while
the Muslim population is exploding. They ain't going anywhere.
Connect the dots.


LOL I'm the hateful bigot? Unlike you, I don't have an emotional stake in
this issue. And don't hold your breath waiting for end of Israel if you
value your life.

Jarg


  #156  
Old July 5th 06, 06:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,soc.history.what-if,alt.news-media
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Jarg wrote:

Sounds like you are the one engaging in propaganda by trying to justify the
deliberate targeting of women and children by Palestinian terrorists.


They have determined that an effective means of retaliation,
considering
their meager resources for fighting back against Israeli murderers and
terrorists who have killed and slaughtered their children wholesale
with
the ever-present support/protection of the mighty U.S.
The numbers speak for themselves.

Also,
I suspect that if the Israelis were really engaging in genocide there
wouldn't be any Palestinians left given the enormous military advantage
Israel has.


Another common response from defenders of all things Israel.
If Israel had its way, there wouldn't be a Muslim left alive on the
planet, and all its enemies (real or imagined) would've been blown
to atoms, with all their lands a smoking ruin. But, unfortunately for
them, there's the rest of the world to deal with, including the U.S.,
who just might **finally** have to reel these murderers in for good
if they attempted such a mass extermination. They know that as
well as you and I do.

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Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1,
Israel's favor.
Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1.
---------
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

--
Cliff

  #158  
Old July 5th 06, 07:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,soc.history.what-if,alt.news-media
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Most of the world condemns Israel sonny. Without their control of
American politics, they would likely cease to exist.


Thanks for the input gramps. As I said, don't hold your breath.

Jarg


  #159  
Old July 6th 06, 12:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,soc.history.what-if,alt.news-media
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Default Israel Threatens to Hit Damascus-Next step of A Clean Break?:

Jarg wrote:
"Matt Giwer" wrote in message
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Jarg wrote:
"Matt Giwer" wrote in message
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They are the innocent party. Zionists are now and forever the guilty
party. That is a fact.
I don't think any reasonable person would consider the people
intentionally murdering women and children to be innocent.


Reasonable people accept colateral damage from lawful attacks to be
innocent all the time. Israel does it all the time. Israel has killed 7
times more Palestinian children than Israeli children have been killed.


Perhaps if that were true, but the Palestinian bombers are targeting
civilians. It is not "colateral damage."


Targeting civilians is an Israeli lie as you know. They are conducting lawful
attacks against the occupying country. It is as lawful as Poles attacking Germany.

Buses are a military asset in Israel as they are used to transport troops. They
are lawful targets at any time as a military asset.

Any member of the IDF, on or off duty, active or reserve, is a lawful target.
In a country with universal military service any group of Israelis is a lawful
target.

Not only that by the Geneva conventions it is completely legitimate to attack
any place in Israel at any time without regard to any consideration save perhaps
avoiding hospitals.

Are you trying to pretend Israel does not do this even when the PM
declares killing 16 innocents of whom 5 are childen an unqualifed success
because it kills just one suspect?


You're trying to make this an either/or choice, which it is not. I didn't
say the Israelis don't have blood on there hands. That is true for any
nation that has engaged in war. But I will say that there is a difference
in that the Palestinians are targeting innocents, whereas the Israelis have
caused civilian casualties in the course of fighting militants.


And as you know Israel is lying when it claims innocents are being targeted I
do not see the point of your response.

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  #160  
Old July 6th 06, 01:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,soc.history.what-if,alt.news-media
Matt Giwer
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Default Israel Threatens to Hit Damascus-Next step of A Clean Break?:

Jarg wrote:

Sounds like you are the one engaging in propaganda by trying to justify the
deliberate targeting of women and children by Palestinian terrorists.


Women are drafted too. Israel should not permit its military to hide among
children.

Also,
I suspect that if the Israelis were really engaging in genocide there
wouldn't be any Palestinians left given the enormous military advantage
Israel has.


Not only to you support Krystalnacht you now support mass extermination.

When did you become a Nazi?

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