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German Stereotypes?
"Cub Driver" wrote in message ... Where did the German soldier (officer?) stereotypes of the monocle and the dueling scar come from? Was there one guy in WW I or WW II who had them? The stereotype was created by Erich von Stroheim (if I spell it correctly) in the officer roles he played in silent films about WWI. You neglected to mention the shaved head As for the reality behind the stereotype, dueling was a ritual activity in the Prussian version of university fraternities in the 19th century. As I recall the ritual, you had to keep your sword hand at your temple. You were protected elsewhere than the face. You stood next to your opponent and slashed away. The purpose was to get the scar, which was highly prized as a symbol of manhood. Since Prussia constituted nearly half of 1900 Germany, and a clear majority of the officer corps, it probably was true that many German officers in WWI had dueling scars. The monocle was widely used in Europe, less so in America, in the 19th century and into the 20th. Teddy Roosevelt was one of the more prominent monocle wearers IRC Keith |
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Keith Willshaw wrote:
Teddy Roosevelt was one of the more prominent monocle wearers IRC Teddy wore pince-nez spectacles, and these figured largely in caricatures of the period. http://www.npg.si.edu/exh/roosevelt/zoo.htm -- Andrew Chaplin SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO (If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.) |
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Where did the German soldier (officer?) stereotypes of the monocle and the dueling scar come from? Was there one guy in WW I or WW II who had them? von Stromberg, movie actor and director. Sort of the prototype Jerry badguy. v/r Gordon ====(A+C==== USN SAR Aircrew "Got anything on your radar, SENSO?" "Nothing but my forehead, sir." |
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message ...
"dave999" wrote in message news:u300b.4762$Qy4.3831@fed1read05... Where did the German soldier (officer?) stereotypes of the monocle and the dueling scar come from? Was there one guy in WW I or WW II who had them? The duelling scar was a traditional mark of the Prussian officer but the credit for the image of monocle and duelling star probably belongs to the German born actor and director Eric Von Stroheim who played the part of the villianous hun many times between the 20's and the 50's. He was one of the fe to make the transition from silent movies to sound. Keith True enough, but German dueling continues on today. It's called Mensur dueling. More info: http://www.ilt.columbia.edu/academic...m96/sword.html Rob |
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