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You want to reread that first paragraph which reads "The defensive tail
armament was changed. The quartet of 0.50-inch machine guns carried by earlier versions was replaced by a single General Electric M61 20-mm six-barreled rotary cannon. " Ahh, I see. I read it to infer that the replacement was made post production. BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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Is a tail gun necessary on a B52?
No, at least in my opinion. If you ever get a bandit close enough to your jet to use a 20mm cannon, many things have gone wrong from the OCA push to the AWACS coverage. Has one ever been used as a defensive measure in recent times? This is debateable. According to several books and official Air Force history, yes it was used successfully twice during Linebacker II. According to a few books, including the latest; "11 Days of Christmas", the two supposed shootdowns were probably F-4s diving away from BUFF friendly fire. Our own Ed Rasimus who shared those same skys that December doubts they were real kills as well. Also, refresh my memory, it was a B52 that Slim Pickens was dropped from in the movie ( as per BUFDRVR's signature )?? Sure was....yaaahoooo... And as more of a side note, was BUFDRVR's H model built before or after the movie came out? Before. The movie was made in early 1963 and released over Christmas 1963. There's a scene in the movie where our hero, Slim Pickins, is reading the contents of the survival kit and says; "shoot a fella could have a good time in Vegas with stuff". If you watch closely, the word "Vegas" is dubbed in and Slim actually says "Dallas". This was changed prior to the movies release due to the shooting of JFK in Dallas in November '63. BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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Yes, Slim Pickens was the pilot of a B-52 in "Dr. Strangelove"
(or "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"), I can't tell you off hand what model it was supposed to be. Its a "Chameleon" BUFF. In one scene its a G, the next an H and the next a "Tall Tale". BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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All I remember is it was a tall tail.
In a few scenes, yes it was, but its a G and H in some as well. BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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He thought General Ripper...snip
That's General Jack D. Ripper to those of us who love him BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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BUFDRVR wrote:
Yes, Slim Pickens was the pilot of a B-52 in "Dr. Strangelove" (or "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"), I can't tell you off hand what model it was supposed to be. Its a "Chameleon" BUFF. In one scene its a G, the next an H and the next a "Tall Tale". BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" Would that be the "I" model?? Or do we skip the "I" and go to "J" so no one thinks it's a "T"?? ( Huh? ) |
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BUFDRVR wrote: Is a tail gun necessary on a B52? No, at least in my opinion. If you ever get a bandit close enough to your jet to use a 20mm cannon, many things have gone wrong from the OCA push to the AWACS coverage. That was my thought. It seemed to me in recent times ( Gulf I and II, Afghanistan ), by the time the B52, B2 and B1 were running multiple missions, the skies were mostly already ours. Chances of anything small getting close was minimal. Has one ever been used as a defensive measure in recent times? This is debateable. According to several books and official Air Force history, yes it was used successfully twice during Linebacker II. According to a few books, including the latest; "11 Days of Christmas", the two supposed shootdowns were probably F-4s diving away from BUFF friendly fire. Our own Ed Rasimus who shared those same skys that December doubts they were real kills as well. Also, refresh my memory, it was a B52 that Slim Pickens was dropped from in the movie ( as per BUFDRVR's signature )?? Sure was....yaaahoooo... And as more of a side note, was BUFDRVR's H model built before or after the movie came out? Before. The movie was made in early 1963 and released over Christmas 1963. There's a scene in the movie where our hero, Slim Pickins, is reading the contents of the survival kit and says; "shoot a fella could have a good time in Vegas with stuff". If you watch closely, the word "Vegas" is dubbed in and Slim actually says "Dallas". This was changed prior to the movies release due to the shooting of JFK in Dallas in November '63. BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" See, now I'm going to have to rent that this weekend! Hopefully it can be found! |
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"BUFDRVR" wrote in message ... Yes, Slim Pickens was the pilot of a B-52 in "Dr. Strangelove" (or "How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"), I can't tell you off hand what model it was supposed to be. Its a "Chameleon" BUFF. In one scene its a G, the next an H and the next a "Tall Tale". Sounds like something from Dale Brown. Glenn D. |
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In article ,
Mark and Kim Smith wrote: BUFDRVR wrote: "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" See, now I'm going to have to rent that this weekend! Hopefully it can be found! You could just buy a copy. They're less than $20 on DVD. -- cirby at cfl.rr.com Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations. Slam on brakes accordingly. |
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